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298354.5 in reply to 298354.4
Date: 02/09/2019 01:58:37
Diamond Dogs
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Agree on most of your points coach. In addition to your thoughts about training for the Junios/Seniors National Team it would be advisable to set expectations accordingly, meaning either you focus on training your trainee or you focus on winning your division. I doubt many managers let alone anyone can handle both at the same time and it's probably easier for those with established players playing for the Seniors NT. But for managers training 18-19 year-old players IMO the Division III is a much easier platform for them to grow without too much risk of losing games, fans, finances etc.

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Date: 02/09/2019 05:04:37
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I agree that in Div 1 its almost impossible to train for u21 without being exploited in mismatches but if your player is already 23 and up pwede mo na isabay for Senior training kaya advisable to adopt pag nasa div 1 ka to inherit a trainee and continue training. Ako rin dati I could not train when I was in Div 1.

For Div 2, i somewhat agree that it would take a more tenured manager to navigate winning and training at the same time. Some managers dont even train at all with the exception of maybe stamina and FT's. Win now mode sila. I would train before some foreigners just to make them look a little better and sell when the market is favorable. Payaman mode tawag namin dati. Quick flip of trainees. Normally if you are training a Center overcompensate by buying a much stronger PF. Thats what I usually do in that scenario. Just to remain competitive.

Div 3 is just u21 prospects and up to maybe 80K Senior player prospects. More or less ito ang threshold. Maintaining higher payroll is a lot to ask for a div 3 manager. Kaya it boils down to div 1 and 2, If you want the high salary - high tsp combo. Financially a Div 1 team can support 1 Senior player, 2 is a stretch but it has been done. Ang reklamo dati at maybe hanggang ngayon is the quality of Senior players that we have. I think we analyzed this before in an old thread but the economics are still similar. Malayo pa tayo sa gusto natin marating. Winning u21 in Asia is great for us. Ang tagal natin nawala sa eksena. I do agree with you that Div 3 is good for u21 pero hindi realistic to breed Senior players unless they are willing to sell them later on. Ang harvest natin dapat is by every u21 batch. Every batch meron tayong 1 or 2 Senior prospects that are about 80-85% capped.

Last edited by Ob1 at 02/09/2019 05:11:50

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298354.7 in reply to 298354.6
Date: 02/09/2019 19:49:08
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Agree and agree to both coaches pro shot and ob1. I was in Div. 3 & 2 nung nakapagtrain talaga ako ng U21 and NT players. But sa PPL mahirap talaga, naging buy & sell talaga strategy ko para magsurvive sa PPL. Thinking na nga ako of going down to D2 para makapagstart na makapag focus na muna sa pagtrain ulit.

About sa harvest from U21 sa past seasons we have Rios and Fornoles as stand outs. May mga ilan din silang kabatch na okay okay naman pero iba talaga levels nung 2 na un. I think at this rate in a few more seasons pwede na natin i-set ung minimum TSP levels for NT. Ideal talaga ung sabi ni boss obi na 120 for bigs at 130 for guards & wings.

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Date: 02/10/2019 01:08:29
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(35121559) Similar to Denaque but needs more passing well built PF

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Date: 02/10/2019 10:10:20
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Based on my experience training in Div II, I can barely scrape the last playoff spot while ensuring consistent minutes for my trainees, kasi most of the time magiging liabilty ang trainees mo sa starting five. Unlike when I was training my only U21 player in Div III that I was at least assured he can handle the competition there. Not that I'm necessarily advocating tanking sa mga Division II teams but it will take you longer to be competitive and that should be a sacrifice you should be willing to make.

BTW quick question for those in the know, what is your minimum requirement for player potential para maabot a ng TSP requirements ng Senior NT? MVP and higher ba ideally? Thanks.

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298354.10 in reply to 298354.9
Date: 02/10/2019 10:24:54
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Medyo alanganin ung MVP boss, pero kung maayos pagkakadistribute ng skills kinakaya naman like ngaun sa NT natin may mga MVP's na nakakapasok kasi di nga ganun kalaki tlaga talent base natin. Pero ideally sana HOF and above.

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Date: 02/11/2019 05:55:03
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1st game natin ngayon guys against UAE.

We are leading at the end of Q1; 30-17. Medyo pakaba ung umpisa natin good thing napagpag kaagad ang opening day jitters. Salamat sa bench firepower at sa solid debut ni Mende! (41368489) of team (203605).

Let's finish this off! :)

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Date: 02/11/2019 08:31:20
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Nice win coach! Not a bad way to start your campaign as the reelected NT manager. Impressive debut by Mende too.

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Date: 02/11/2019 18:10:01
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Thanks coach. Wala pa tlaga tayo sa tunay na laban so more on kapa kapa pa sa mga bagong players and possible combinations. Pero so far looking good naman.

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Date: 02/12/2019 15:04:50
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It took Coach Fabio to remind me that Mende was the batch mate of my boy Torreon and others in S40 U21 squad that won bronze that time. He was a bit overshadowed that time by players who shoot at will but who has the last laugh now? He he he he. He dropped 42 in his debut. That is rare performance for first timers. I can see how he boomed from U21 to now. Simply fantastic.

Congratulations for the victory, Coach Jeorge!

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Date: 03/05/2019 10:50:03
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Pilipinas NT Update

We are now at 3-0 after a series of blowout wins against UAE, Kazakz & Pakistan. We had an ave. winning margin of close to 60pts. This just shows us the quality of competition we faced at the early stages is not really that high. Also shows how big a factor HCA is.

Well after a series of relatively easy games our schedule will start to toughen up. Up next for us are the trio of SG, AU & Iran. Australia lead by Coach Morwood is really solid, they probably are the 3rd best team talent wise. While I consider SG & Iran as dark horse, they can beat any team on any day.

Goodluck to everyone and keep training up your players guys. Rest assured na minomonitor natin ung mga may potential na macall up natin for NT duties.

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