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When (like the next draft) I am hunting for a gun, I do all 6 demonstrations to find out all skills, then interview and scout with remainder of points. I will spend 90 points in the next draft.

That's too expensive for me, and kind of pointless since I look solely at potential.

Good luck with the draft!

I don't spend this much each season. This season, where I will likely get 1st or 2nd pick, it is worth it. I am making $150k profit per week after spending $40k on the draft and everything else. I certainly can't do this every season.

Look at my current situation:

Typical Weekly Net Income: $ -163 173

And that is after I sold Aleksijević, it was -240k. Fan boycott from last season combined with less income in second league makes for a fun problem to have :D

MrJ wrote:

I don't spend this much each season. This season, where I will likely get 1st or 2nd pick, it is worth it. I am making $150k profit per week after spending $40k on the draft and everything else. I certainly can't do this every season.

Pihija wrote:

Look at my current situation:

Typical Weekly Net Income: $ -163 173

And that is after I sold Aleksijević, it was -240k. Fan boycott from last season combined with less income in second league makes for a fun problem to have :D

I'm glad you're in better position than myself in terms of teams' cash chest; my team is currently at minus $573K... (Yay)!

Last edited by Wagner at 5/12/2026 5:35:49 AM

League Leaders (Top 5) / HGL Season 5 / Round 2

Michael Jordan Award
41.0 ppg / A.Maksimavicius / VIV
39.5 ppg / M.Bensala / WMO
36.5 ppg / V.Skucs / LMS
31.0 ppg / J.Paabo / EOS
28.5 ppg / A. Di Natale / VPO
[...]

Denis Rodman Award (OR)
9.5 orpg / D.Vikblad / HB (13)
5.5 orpg / M.Kavazic / KKS
5.0 orpg / J.Dorion / ED
5.0 orpg / V.Kaleva / WAG
4.5 orpg / L.Rannala / EOS
4.5 orpg / L.Juslin / ALA
4.0 orpg / T.Dambekalns / LMS
4.0 orpg / J.Kunttunen / WAG
4.0 orpg / E.Tecchio / FRE
4.0 orpg / M.Keres / BCR

Some revealing information for those who are looking...

Indeed - some "radical" numbers still out there across the board really, as only few Rounds have been played and statistics haven't had time to "level" in terms of best performers.
Interesting addition for sure for this Season, thanks again MrJ!

Pihija wrote:

You also do Group demonstration? That's the best move you can do since you spend only 10 points and scout about 20 players.

In my opinion, MVP potential player is almost as valuable as HOF because it is rare for trainee to reach his full potential unless you are NT farm team.

MrJ wrote:
When (like the next draft) I am hunting for a gun, I do all 6 demonstrations to find out all skills, then interview and scout with remainder of points. I will spend 90 points in the next draft.

That's also something that I like to do sometimes (that MrJ said he does), as it's sometimes terrible to get these players with 1-2 skill levels on important (or actually almost in any) skills.
I paid my "tuition fee" earlier having player(s) in my team with atrocious (? skill level 1) IS for example, and let me tell you my friend, this kind of dude does a lot of harm to your own team in a long run in terms of lost points :D
Also if you happen to receive a player with super low defensive skills, and you've just kind of "finished" your intended defensive training, what will you do even if this player would have great potential (as he doesn't suit your training plans?

Tricky questions... I mean selling would sometimes be obvious answer for many I guess, but personally I've most often been very disappointed on prices that "markets typically pay for this and this kind of player", if you consider how expensive it might have been to acquire such player, if you pay for example $40K/week (as in most cases even if your first draft would be decent/good, 2 of the other draftees from that draft are, say, $1K-50K players at max, so practically worthless and not seriously counting positively towards your used drafting budget in terms of giving potential sales return on your investment).

You should really release most of your team :D

[...]

The only HOF draftee I would consider selling /releasing is one with exceptionally bad OD and ID, everything else works for me. I always play them in Cup games at the beggining and then when I loose in cup it's really easy to find minutes for training.

Look what kind of prospect Dinaid Bukva was when I drafted him:

https://imgur.com/uJXJwfS

56 skill points 19 YO trainee with mediocre defense, not a great prospect at all.

Look at him now:

https://imgur.com/6JBGlUv

This choice of having x number of players (x being a big value) is one of the core elements of my playing strategy/philosophy.
I can reveal to you that I have kept at least one draftee since BB season 25 (if my memory serves me, I don't have time to verify that again right now). See, this is where it gets somewhat complicated if and as I want to keep on the tradition; on those Seasons when I've been able to get player who I've trained to high-ish skills (and salary), I "can't" sell everyone else, as there might be a situation where I have to sell one of my better players (to avoid bankruptcy), which would leave me with 0 own draftees on one certain season, if that'd be the only draftee I have left on my team from that season.

(Yes, I think I have few players that are those "3rd" draftees on one given season that I could let go, but there aren't as many of those that you might think, and in the case of 40+ aged players their salary is already so minimal and getting even smaller, that there's even no point of firing them in order to get serious financial benefit).

So, as mentioned, especially these, say, 40+ year old players don't take much of my budget anyway. These 20-somethiing players with, say, 4K/week salary do cost quite a bit though if you count their cost for the next 15 seasons, and that's where the biggest long term cost (of this strategy/philosophy) comes from.

Like you probably remember, I had goal of acquiring 100 own draftees, which failed at 99.

Therefore I made "controlled panic firings" (meaning firings that enabled me to stick with afore mentioned draftee policy of mine) last Season, and haven't "re-combed" my roster since (to find all potential future firings), but like I said, it makes it harder/more tedious process as I want to make sure I won't make any mistakes in my firings that would eventually (due to a panic sale of a player later on, if there's only one draftee left from given season in my roster) break the streak that has continued since BB season 25.

Personally, I draft for potential only, since I have time for training as a homegrown team. I always mold players into system, never the other way. And I usually do circles between guards and bigs training, with those tweeners that don't fit anywhere ending up as solid SFs.

Time for me is not the problem, the skill set and other aspects of a player in question (and their suitability to certain type of training, considering their total skill set, how tall and old they are, elastic effect, etc.) often times are, and like I said, I really need to consider trainee not causing me too much loss in a "regular BB league" games, because I need to win certain amount of those - cup and friendlies solve only one third of the training challenge (but are important, otherwise it'd be very difficult to train low skilled players).

While I also often times do bigs and small training in cycles, apparently I should do some things differently as well.

What, and how exactly (considering I'm very likely going to stick with this philosophy of sticking with large numbers of players) with these budget restraints, including (hopefully) not being able to acquire good drafting positions (because that'd mean I'd be relegating) would I achieve that, is a million dollar question.
Or at least $573K question, as that's how much the budget is at minus currently. ;P

You can count Aleksijević as sold already, since offer was made for him and he's good as gone.

I'm not sure if we're supposed to report all transfers or only top 8, but I sold my draftee from this year also, Kosta Karić.

Added one new player trough draft, Milorad Georgijev.

Now I have 7 HOF potential players on roster, I really leared how to scout well :D

HGL Transfers-post ((331392.5)) has now been updated.

@all HGL managers:
Everyone, please remember to notify me of all of your transfers and firings.

If there are HGL managers (also other than SventraCanestri/VPO) that do use BB through BB app (and who consequently are apparently not able to use forum due to that), then please send me BBMail about your transfers/firings if you can't easily inform me of them otherwise.

Please also let me know if I've forgot to add someone to the transfer post, as I don't always do that immediately after being informed of transfer/firing.

Last edited by Wagner at 5/12/2026 7:12:21 AM

League Leaders (Top 5) / HGL Season 5 / Round 2[...]

Some revealing information for those who are looking...

By the way, just out of interest, if and as it seems you'll be publishing these all Season long (instead of once at the end of RS), have you already decided what kind of "cutter" are you going to use, as for qualifying to the list at a given time during Season (enough matches played in order to be qualified)?

I can't recall exactly what was for instance NBA's stats policy when I viewed those at the end side of current NBA RS (of course I don't mean you'd need to follow that, but mentioned just as an example) for qualifying to stats, but if my memory serves me it was somewhere around 55-65% mark...

EDIT:
Memory doesn't always serve well: apparently in NBA it's minimum of 70% of all matches.

Apparently in Euroleague for example, this data is not public (what's the minimum requirement).

In NCAA basketball this seems to be bit more complex, but if we only take a look at an option of minimum amount of matches played, it would appear to be minimum of 75%. (Having said that, there seems to be certain exception to this rule, so called projection rule).

In ACB (Spain), BBL (Germany), LBA (Italy) and VTB United League (East Europe) the limit as far as I know is not public, but apparently is somewhere around the lines of 50-60% of matches.

In NBL (Australia) seemingly limit is min. 50% of matches, or projection rule (like in NCAA).

So these limits apply to average-statistic categories such as PTS, REB, AST, STL, BLK.


As for qualifying to shooting percentage statistics (which isn't essential in this case as you don't publish those), different limits (minimum shot attempt-amounts) seems to be applied at least in Finnish Korisliiga (but as far as I understood, practically all over Europe), which would seemingly be about 100 FGA, 50 3P FGA or 50 FTA (per 32 matches).

Sorry if there are mistakes in these - just a result of quick search.



Last edited by Wagner at 5/12/2026 10:52:14 AM

I had even more HOFers in past, that I sold.

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Had many MVPs too.

My draft tactic is this: first I spend 10 points on Group demonstration where every 1 and 2 stars players are scouted. Among them, there are usually 5 to 10 five star prospects. I scout them all (5 star prospects, to be clear), and then I just scout from the beginning and continue until the draft day, scouting every 5 star prospect twice. I always spend every point.

I invest 10 k weekly, so 3 scouting points per week.

I always put 5 star potential players at the top, no matter which other attributes they have, are they 18 or 19 YO, how tall they are etc. I manage to get HOFer or MVP potential players often that way.

I use the same draft strategy as you ;)

But I've been playing in the Italian second division since season 53, so I've always had a terrible pick.
And in the two seasons I played in the first division, I had a second-round pick, but I wasn't lucky with the players' skills; they were MVPs and legends, but with obvious bad skills.