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Update:
HB has still not logged in (since June 10th).

TRO has been sent a warning of a dismissal from HGL as a BBMail, and also a request to let us know if he's willing to buy back players that he has sold in the past, to be able to qualify as a HGL team on Season 6.
He has logged in quite regularly, but has not felt necessary to reply any of my BBMails or HGL Thread requests.
This, in addition to becoming non-HGL eligible team by purpose (not even due to forced bankruptcy sales, as one HGL manager mentioned their starting sales price would've otherwise been $0 and not 1000), is kind of enough to kick one out of HGL.

However, I've been patient with teams in the past with communication problems (BUC and SUM to name few - maybe there have been more, but I can't instantly/initially remember them now), so I'll now apply the same 'overly patient'-mode to this situation, especially as TRO has been with us since the very beginning (which, like I mentioned, makes this even more baffling situation).

I repeat this question: does anyone know if TRO (Chucarro/ now Yayo) or HB (Spela) use Discord?

@ all currently Home-grown teams that are not yet playing in HGL, but are interested in participating to next HGL Season:

This is (more or less) a final call on HGL-PL (HGL Promotion/Participation League) participation!

HGL is, if someone is still unaware of it, a Pickup match based league, in where we all organize Regular Season matches manually before each Season starts based on schedule provided by HGL.
HGL main Thread for HGL Season 5: (331392.1)
HGL Scores Thread for HGL Season 5: (331391.1)

Teams that are "on the queue/waiting list" to HGL, are first and foremost being offered a place to HGL based on their success in most recent HGL-PL.

HGL-PL doesn't "eat up" too many tokens from your team either (likely 1-3), as it seems not too many teams are participating to first ever HGL-PL.

Why I am "repeating" my earlier post about announcing your HGL/HGL-PL interest, is because it seems likely we actually have at least one place open to HGL Season 6 (played during next BB season), as probably we are going to have to dismiss one current HGL team from our current roster of 18 teams.

So please let me know by sending me BBMail as soon as possible, if you want to participate first to HGL-PL (which is starting soon - please be prepared for that!), and then of course to HGL as well.

The formerly announced deadline (for informing about your interest to participate to HGL.PL) has already passed, but I'm still keeping it open for now.

"HGL-PL participation announcement-time window" might be closed soon without further notice, so if you're interested, let me know before it's too late, as it can close any day/week now.

Currently 4 teams have announced their interest to participate to first ever HGL-PL:
Tassie Devils: (38697) (Top8-salaries $174K)
San Fernando VR: (77070) (Top8-salaries $111K without HGL-ineligible player)
M.L.S. REICH: (39615) (Top8-salaries $157K)
borteam: (46607) (Top8-salaries $108K)


Note, that you have to have 100% Home-Grown roster when HGL-PL starts, otherwise you can't participate in it.
San Fernando VR has promised to sell/fire their HGL-PL ineligible player, Bolourchian, before HGL-PL starts.

As you can see, there's still plenty of room in HGL-PL for new teams, so please let me know ASAP if you would like to participate in it! There are also no "monster teams" (say, +$500K top8-salaries) this time around, so all "mid-class" home-grown teams might well have a good chance to win the first ever HGL-PL.

Last edited by Wagner at 6/25/2026 2:54:30 PM

@all HGL teams who might be on league table positions from 5th to 12th after Regular Season on Season 5:

Please remember to be ready to organize First Round of Playoff matches very soon, after Official Regular Season Rankings (ORSR) are released after tomorrow's last RS Round (Round 17).

Hårdboll (HB) has still not logged in after June 10th.
As you can see, when you reflect this to note on previous chapter, we are running the risk of not being able to get all First Round Playoff matches organized in time.

This shall (once again) work as a great example why I have said that please set some kind of reminders to your phones/computers/calendars/whatever, about critical times of the HGL Season, so that matches get organized and also other HGL tasks such as match organizing process will be done in time.

It would be very, very lame (and frustrating to say the least) if HB's opponent would proceed by forfeit win from First Round, if there are other managers that would've wanted to participate to Playoffs.

Having said that, of course that's not yet the situation (forfeit in Playoffs), but 11 days is quite a long stretch already and doesn't indicate too strong of a presence in BB, and I've seen stranger things in BB (than someone not being logged in during 2-3 weeks stretch).

Anyway, let's hope he'll log in soon, and votes and also organizes First Round Playoff-match soon.

(Given that he doesn't forfeit his tomorrow's RS R17 game, he will be 12th in league table and will reach Season 5 Playoffs - with forfeit loss he would fall out of Playoffs, as 'more forfeits equals worse league table position among teams with same amount of league points'-rule surpasses other rules, such as the other tiebreaker rules, including match result(s) from that Regular Season that would especially in normal 2-way tie determine the better team.
Yes, forfeit penalties remain quite harsh, but that's exactly the whole point - I want to do all I can to discourage having a league with plenty of forfeits, as those are eventually frustrating, irritating, cause more work and uncertainty, doesn't do any good to the 'reputation and reliability'-aspect of the league, and most certainly don't reflect any respect towards the league whatsoever).


Nobody has yet answered my questions on whether Spela (HB) and/or Chucarro/now Yayo (TRO) use Discord for communication...

As a reminder though, HGL officially never uses Discord as a communication method.

It is possible that I've requested (and in future will request, like now for instance is the case with HB and TRO) some HGL managers to contact another HGL manager through Discord (as I don't use it personally), but BBMail and BB forums remain the place for communicating (in terms of HGL related issues/things/info).

Why I mentioned this is that it remains the case, that HGL never solely uses Discord as a communication method in any important aspects.
Of course this has always been the case, but as I've been personally disappointed of:
A) discussion moving from BB forums to Discord in general, and
B) owners/developers/(possibly some BB-Staff apparently, if my memory serves me) have encouraged people to use Discord for communication almost rather than BB forums, that won't be the case with HGL - communication about HGL will remain in BB in future as well, so you will not miss any HGL news/announcements/info if you're not using Discord.

Last edited by Wagner at 6/21/2026 6:47:16 AM

MrJ wrote:
I know what is occurring with 2 teams is frustrating, but we should also consider the possibility that something unexpected has occurred to one or both of them. If this is the case, some leniency could be shown. With that said, we have finals games coming up and if forfeits occur, then they occur. If they cause someone to miss out on an opportunity to play finals, or cause someone else to play finals as a result of the forfeit...so be it. This is only my opinion. And, without knowing the true reason why we cannot get in touch with these two managers, thinking positively about our fellow managers is the right thing to do.

As for Discord...I tried to login once and then abandoned it. I had only done so to seek some info about BB but decided it wasn't worth it.

I don't know if any of our managers in the HGL use it. We do have some younger managers perhaps that might.

Like I said, I already have my 'patience filter' on. Of course, there can be anything happening in their lives that we are unaware of. Simultaneously however, neglecting HGL tasks is also showing some disrespect towards the league, so personally I don't view that as a positive thing in any way. And at the same time I realize this is "only" a game of basketball.
IRL there would be likely way bigger sanctions for teams failing with important things such as not showing up for Playoff match (should that occur), so while penalties might seem strict, they need to be so strict that this kind of behavior would be strongly discouraged by that.



As for HB, it's "normal" (when compared to TRO, with multiple logins recently) he hasn't done any actions as he hasn't even received messages (hasn't logged in), so personally I'd expect him to being able to fulfill all his obligations so to speak, but we'll see about that - only time will tell.

As for TRO, he has logged in numerous times, and he has been sent numerous BBMails (more than I have informed you guys of), with request and eventually demand of remaining contact with HGL or he runs the risk of being kicked out of the league.
Everybody knows that it's requirement to remain in contact with HGL to some extent, or they run a risk of being thrown out. In the case of TRO, why would I expect him to be in touch anymore, if he hasn't replied to me at all, and have done almost all he can to become HGL ineligible team (apart from buying ineligible players)? I hope he will remain part of HGL on Season 6 as well, but there needs to be some sensible limit how long teams are given time to respond, especially given that he's already been logged in multiple times since initial contact (and multiple contacts after that)...

This is a league that runs manually, and while everybody needs to do some basic work, most of the background tasks, including notifying managers who have not completed tasks, causes me some extra work and need attention continuously to make sure they'be been taken care of.

Last edited by Wagner at 6/21/2026 7:17:16 AM

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On the 4th possibility: This seems quite likely to me. I believe that when you reach a certain amount in debt, and pass the time allowed by BB, all of your players are automatically sold off. This looks like it has occurred. IF this is the case, and feeling devastated by such a situation, the HG is going to be the last thing on his mind. I would not fault him for being absolutely distraught at h

Just a quick note (as I don't have time for long reply right now), that I heard from HGL manager (that fact I didn't verify myself, but I don't have any reason to believe that wouldn't have been the case); this another HGL manager mentioned, that TRO's players were being sold at $1, and not $1000. This, as he underlined, practically should mean that players at least have not been automatically/forcefully transfer listed.

@Club Trouville (Chucarro/nowadays Yayo), important, please read::

Your team has caused a most serious rule violation that is possible to make in HGL, as you have purchased non-HGL eligible player (Michel Karslian, June 22nd, 2026) during HGL Season (note: including Playoffs, even if you are not playing in Playoffs; this has been clearly stated in rules, just as mentioned below).

This will trigger level 5 penalty, which will mean you will be immediately disqualified from this and from full next HGL Season (Season 6).

This decision (and occurred rule violation) is very clear and therefore easy (yet unfortunate) to make.


In rules it says about Level 5 penalty:
"Level 5: Immediate disqualification from the current and for the full forthcoming Season; match in where violation occurred, and all the future scores for the current Season will become 0-50 forfeit losses."


In other rules post, it says like this:
"You can not become non-homegrown team (by buying HGL-ineligible players) on any part of the season, including whole duration of HGL Playoffs , if you wish to participate in HGL on the next Season. Becoming non-HG team will cause an immediate Level 5 penalty. (Certain exceptions that would only take effect after Regular Season has ended, and would only be meant for teams not reaching Playoffs at all could be considered for further Seasons of HGL, but such rules won't be in effect at Season 5 of HGL)."

It is unfortunate that our ways departed this way, especially as you've been loyal manager since the very beginning. It's hard to believe it would leave good taste to anyone's mouth so to speak, but it is what it is..

Last edited by Wagner at 6/23/2026 5:05:18 AM

@all HGL managers:
If you still haven't filled match scores to your box score post on Regular Season 5 matches, now is time to do it!


@all HGL managers who finished to top12 on the Season 5 league table:

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Note: this post has also been published on Scores-Thread, so you don't need to read it again there if you read it here, I just sent it there as well so that everyone surely sees this.
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It is Playoff time, so it's time to take all your extra cunning strategies from the drawer and see if they could cause some upsets on this Season's Playoffs! Maybe proving me wrong provides an extra motivation for underdogs, so maybe I'll make a guess, that home teams will win on this Season as well... ;)

You all know the drill, but as a quick reminder:

- Teams on top4 positions rest the first week (next Sunday) - congratulations for your free ticket to Second Round!

- All playoff matches are played on home/away court only !)

- Organize Season 5 Playoff matches at the same time that all your other HGL matches seem to have been played when you take at look your BB schedule!

- Note: Publish your Playoff match links as soon as match has been organized!


Here below are the matchups for First Round of Season 5 Playoffs;

please let me know if you find any faults/mistakes in ORSR-rankings, or Playoff matchups - I have done as careful work as I can, yet we are all human, so I appreciate if some eyes in our community occasionally do some double checking/scanning to spot any possible errors (before they'd cause any harm/inconvenience).
As I said, I've tried to do as careful work as possible, so I'd almost promise to eat my hat if you'd spot any critical errors from these First Round matchups, but better safe than sorry, yes? :)

PO Round 1 (teams ranked 5th-12th; 8 teams play): Sunday, June 28th, 2026
Rank #5 EOS vs. #12 HB *Waiting for match link!* (Update on June 27th 04.30PM EET DST: HB still hasn't logged in after 21st of June)
Rank #6 LMS vs. #11 MAD (139701203)
Rank #7 ED vs. #10 VDT (139702502) *@ED: *Add match link to box score post!*
Rank #8 WMO vs. #9 LGM (139701277)

Last edited by Wagner at 6/27/2026 10:00:21 AM