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You still have not provided an example on this matter

I've read quite a few forum posts from you, and somehow, you always manage to start an agument for no reason

Last edited by NBA_Dodo at 8/30/2026 5:49:32 PM

Hello

.no arguments in my thread. I think a lot can't stay on topic. .seem to be huge problem on the game .

. Example ,have you not ever seen a 50-0 walk over on your leagues ?.

I have, but in every case it happened because the manager stopped playing. I pesonally never saw a 50-0 WO just to manipulate the standings. Sometimes managers only make the playoff so they don't have to fight againts relegation, but they don't want to get promoted either, this is the only scenario that comes to mind, but still never happened to me.

But managers can give up games without having a 50-0 WO as well, they put their worst players in the lineup and that is it.

And again... You still haven't provided an example that it happened to you. Most people would think you brought this up because it messed up your plans or something.

Hello

The poll is about what a 50–0 walkover can potentially do to league standings, playoff seeding, and championship/ game outcomes.

I'm not saying every 50–0 WO is done to manipulate standings. I'm saying the possibility exists and has occurred., and in those important games .I don't think there should be a way for a game to be decided 50–0 simply because a valid lineup wasn't fielded. That my stance.

That's the issue ,I'm asking people to consider with the poll: whether the current system is appropriate, should it be improved with big penalties etc etc. ,Not whether we all personally witnessed someone manipulate the standings, data all of that..

That a whole new matter that derails the poll.. If I saw or didnt see it on purpose ,it derail the thread..

Once more. My personal stance there should never be a walk over in any game..

I also in a divisional play off when teams are playing there should never be a 50-0 match . If they field a bad line up and lose., ok . But it should never be 50-0 walk over. Its highly unprofessional and unfair, we can never get a real reason of why / i think the penalty today are soft, basically the cost of doing businesses..

Plus we have to report every thing, it’s treated in whom ever opinion of the matter , it take long time as well , which is counter productive.


Last edited by Big city at 8/30/2026 8:25:48 PM

Hello

Iam not! When a suggestion is made, users think about it and analyze it. For analyze it, it needs conversation. In the conversations/comments all the aspects should be discussed. You put questions and wait for answers, from us. We put questions to you and you avoid them

Ok, I’m take your word for it, I think your latter part is nonessential here, i haven’t avoided anyone questions..It may not be the answer your looking for.,I have expressed why. It’s a direct poll..

it is not required 5 players. But three!

And here lye the issue, my stance is that shouldn’t exist in the game and need improvement. The rest of what . You wrote in beside the point. .

This is your opinion. As I said above a suggestion need to be discussed /analyzed. You put a pool, people votes there after they read the comments and also analyze what we say. In the game it is not you or me. You came with a suggestion, I told you my opinion that I am not agree with the way you made it. But I am not the majority here, so further the users will vote it. After that BBs decide it if they take it into account or not.

Yes, it’s my opinion aswell . You don’t have to agree with my stance, I’m not forcing anybody. I just expressed my opinion the same way everyone else expresses theirs.

Pick whatever option you think is right, no harm in that. If what you want isn’t in the poll, there’s an option to comment and give your own suggestion.

We can all decide what we think again no harm in that , and BB can decide what they want to do with it. Kindly, no need to tell us how the poll works or how BB works. It’s really not that serious.


And Of course they can disagree with me. That’s exactly why there are different options in the poll. I don’t see anything wrong with saying get rid of 50–0 walkovers—that’s my opinion and it’s one of the options. People can pick whatever option they agree with. That’s the whole point of the poll.

How strong or weakly they voice it , let them feel free to do so.. The community should get every angle.


BTW, I’d love to hear your stance as well, because I don’t think you’ve actually posted it. Kindly, my opinion is my stance, not ours. So with that said, what improvements would you suggest, if any?




Edit by GM-Perpete: This post was having trouble with the quotes from jokeru's message.

Last edited by GM-Perpete at 8/31/2026 12:38:25 PM

The easy fix would to force the full roster into an empty lineup an let the coach decide. That should of be the default setting for all the teams. Boom, walkovers solved. But hey, lets make rocket science and dont do nothing about it.

And how do we decide we if it's intentional or not? You would need proof, because what if someone just messes up every once in a 20 season time span? Penalizing a manager who has been playing for 10+ IRL years is completely unnecessary just because life happened. You can call it unprofessional but it's not real life, this is a manager GAME where mistakes can happen. And I don't really understand why it bothers you if it's a 50-0 WO or a 100+ point different with a weak lineup.
And at risk of repeating myself, I also don't understand the problem if it haven't affected you. Because I tought that you had seen it happen and you can give us an example. It sheldom happens intentionally, maybe once in 1 IRL year.

Last edited by NBA_Dodo at 8/31/2026 5:46:12 AM

I just said it, but you didn't observed. I agree with no walkovers, to exist an automatic formation as game order, but no punishment for the user/team. I also don't agree that you call some walkovers "manipulations". That's all.

Hello

This will be long reply .


I understand your position, My concern is still the design itself. If a manager intentionally keeps only three actual players when the game gives a team a full roster to start, then that creates a way to manipulate the outcome, even if we can’t know the manager’s intent every time.

That’s where I think the “Skeleton Crew” idea is interesting and the culprit. If the game truly wants to allow teams to operate with only three players, then maybe the design should simply give them three actual players &make the rest “Lucky Fans. To start... instead of 10+ real players.. Then there’s no gray area about a full roster being deliberately left unused.

To be more clear ,-The game gives you the players. Why should the system allow a team to go into a competitive game with only three and produce a 50–0 walkover?

That's the design choice Im questioning—not whether someone forgot something or what their intentions were.


I’m not saying every walkover is manipulation. I’m saying the possibility exists within the design( has occurred), and I think the rules should prevent that possibility rather than rely on us to determine managers intent afterward.


Punishment is already warranted. Because punishment is already there !! If the want for no punishment is said , then we cant have it both ways!!




Last edited by Big city at 8/31/2026 6:04:11 AM

Hey,

But three players doesn't produce a 50-0, it's 2 or less. And the possibility might exist, but in my opinion it rarely affects the outcome of the standings, since most of the time, managers just put 3 of their worst players on the floor rather than a 50-0 WO. Maybe a solution could be if someone doesn't set a lineup, the game can randomly select at least a starting five before every game, I don't know if this would work. However, I think the current system regarding the penalizing is fine, I think a draft pick being taken away is enough, especially if the mistake was a one time think. I voted for this option I mentioned in the sentence before this. But if we want to be just a little more severe, maybe with every 50-0 WO, the number of the fans coming to the home game could decrease by let's say 100-300. Altough I'm not sure if the team who losses 50-0 at home gets the income, if they don't then what I wrote doesn't matter

Last edited by NBA_Dodo at 8/31/2026 9:00:07 AM