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328564.165 in reply to 328564.164
Date: 2/2/2026 3:25:45 PM
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at first glance the players in Italy are stronger than in Israel. at least among those who are on transfer.

Indeed we were better, and deserved to win imo

The Italians didn't play 2 blockers at all. I don't know Busato's skills

We kinda did, Busato and Ghezzi are both shot blockers... you can confirm this by looking at their stats at club level.. 4ppg with 17rpg 4apg and 4 bpg.... so if we count Magutto as a "attacking shot blocker" that means that 3 of the 4 bigs that played were Shot Blockers + Civita which was an attacking PF with high JS and DR (and yeah he's transfer was after the game)

They needed to put Madedda in the lineup

We had poor GS and that's why he didn't play...

I don't know if they have any other blockers who are better than Maggiotto

Magutto was the best cause he could attack too.. but defensively yeah the 4 "pure" stoppers we had were better defensively

Bernardo has -3 range compared to Iliano. Mansuetti has -1 in every skill compared to Speccio.

Bernardo had -3JR true but that's about it.. everything else was the same or better.. for example he had +4PA, +1IS
Mansueti has -1 in everything compared to Specchio but still should have easily scored against his direct defender: Chagag who only had od 15 (https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1447261398705897515...)

Israel has better defense in the small ones

Only Salomon had higher OD than our guards.. he had OD20.. all the other had 17/16/15 while Italy had only 17s and 18s


Also.. there was no ent difference.. actually we had an ent advantage since we played playoff norm in the semifinal against Spain... sooo yeah
Just an unlucky game that we deserved to win.. but that's BB

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Date: 2/2/2026 9:13:44 PM
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The Italians didn't play 2 blockers at all. I don't know Busato's skills

We kinda did, Busato and Ghezzi are both shot blockers


yes, Busato and Ghezzi are blockers, but Magutto is not a top blocker, and Civita is not a blocker at all. they didn't bring a lot to the attack. they did score, but maybe with true blockers instead of them, you could defend more than they scored. or, at least, a blocker in the start, and Magutto under him
Madeddu was at GS 8, if i remember right, not a bad GS, especially if we remember that its influence on defence is much lower than on attack.

Also.. there was no ent difference.. actually we had an ent advantage since we played playoff norm in the semifinal against Spain... sooo yeah


in this case i have little explanation for such a big difference in the final. i really thought you played PO-CT in semis

sometimes you can't explain what happened in the game...

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Date: 2/3/2026 5:58:51 AM
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but Magutto is not a top blocker

He is not.. but he attacked better than Israeli's bigs since he had more JS, more DR and same IS.. but defended much better than theirs... Civita has the same defensive skills of the Israeli bigs and had -1 IS but had JS and DR at 11 or so...
So yeah...

Madeddu was low GS8, like 8,0 (since it was it's lowest dmi total in months), it was better to have the others in GS9 in our opinion

But the problem as i mention is that players like Chagag hold Specchio and Mansueti for a combined 5-25 even tho their had pp100 of 93,3

Just unlucky... if you flip a coin 10 times there's a 1% chance than you get 9 or more heads.. (or a 1 in 1'000 chance to get 10/10)... or in our case... you get a 0/10 game ahah
But BB has like what tens of thousands of games every week.. so it's likely that something like this would happen to someone.. it's just annoying that it happened in a final.. cause i really think we deserved to win