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From: Wagner

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Date: 7/22/2026 9:07:23 AM
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Hopefully he logs back on soon, realises that it is easier than it appears (especially given the work you have done to make it easier for him) and gets it done. It would be a shame for him to come this close and miss out. Especially, as you noted, in a perfect season to enter. The stars have lined up and now is the time to enter the HGL.

Yes, it is the perfect opportunity for all HGL-PL applicants, including him as there are no "monster" teams participating this time around and it seems more likely by day, that we actually have 2 places open in HGL for Season 6 (as HÃ¥rdboll hasn't still responded), but sometimes some things just aren't meant to happen. Hopefully he will complete everything in time though.


If Tazdevil doesn't get this sorted (and I really hope he does) it would be a shame that other managers (like Brucehum) who are really keen, could have had their shot.

This is good point too, absolutely.
Also, let's not forget possibly Svätý Jur Snakers, who might have been interested (or might not, I don't know) in participating (not when I asked, but they declared themselves as 100% HG I believe after HGL-PL roster was already locked).
If he participates on later Seasons to HGL-PL, then we might have:
A) no places on offer to HGL, and/or
B) if there would be only 1 place on offer for next HGL Season, then I wonder who would get it... Now at least there would've likely been 2 open spots.

Last edited by Wagner at 7/22/2026 9:08:02 AM

From: Wagner

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Date: 7/24/2026 4:27:28 AM
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Hopefully he logs back on soon, realises that it is easier than it appears (especially given the work you have done to make it easier for him) and gets it done. It would be a shame for him to come this close and miss out. Especially, as you noted, in a perfect season to enter. The stars have lined up and now is the time to enter the HGL.

Still no contact to you by Tazdevil, I suppose? He has seemingly once again logged in (on July 23rd), but no contact.

It would be better if Tassie Devils would (re-?)confirm here immediately, if they do not wish to participate to HGL-PL, instead of letting the ultimatum deadline pass.

Everything affects everything. Now for instance, I can't properly calculate HGL-PL league tables, before it is being ruled, whether or not TD will be disqualified.

From: Wagner

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Date: 7/24/2026 5:14:04 AM
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Second Round of HGL-PL is just behind the corner.

While we're in an awkward situation (of not being able to yet create "reliable" league tables - hence the decision to not yet create them at all), due to not knowing if Tassie Devils (TD) will be disqualified or not; we'll be wiser about that in 36 hours or so at the very latest), First Round of HGL-PL provided some very interesting moments.

Whether or not TD will be disqualified or not, San Fernando VR (SAN) was able to cruise to an impressive 101-72 victory against Tassie Devils (TD), which you can see from this HGL-PL schedule/results-post: (331392.21). TD had quite a lot higher top8-salaries ($174K vs. $111K), so that makes the victory even more impressive.

Nailbiter match of the Round One though was M.L.S. REICH - borteam (MLS-BOR).
And again, an underdog (BOR) was able to outperform their more expensive competition ($108K vs $157K), but only by 4 points. (Free nitro's provided by HGL to all participants and spectators).

So two of the lowest ranked top8-salary teams are at the top of the league table after Round one, and Second Round is providing interesting math(es):
#TD-BOR (139757790) *
#MLS-SAN (139721683)
*=result pending (possible TD forfeit)

While every match is so importanst here, especially for MLS it will be an important afternoon as they lost on Round One and now face so far undefeated SAN.
MLS is $46K ahead in top8-salaries, but like we saw on Round One, nothing is set in stone before match is finished... :)

Last edited by Wagner at 7/24/2026 5:17:01 AM

From: Wagner

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Date: 7/25/2026 4:19:12 AM
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So two of the lowest ranked top8-salary teams are at the top of the league table after Round one, and Second Round is providing interesting math(es):
#TD-BOR (139757790) *
#MLS-SAN (139721683)
*=result pending (possible TD forfeit)

While every match is so importanst here, especially for MLS it will be an important afternoon as they lost on Round One and now face so far undefeated SAN.
MLS is $46K ahead in top8-salaries, but like we saw on Round One, nothing is set in stone before match is finished... :)


Very interesting results.

@ Wagner...no contact from Taz Devil.


TD has not contacted me either. despite being logged in on 24th again.

He lost in HGL-PL again though, despite having "an expensive" roster - but having his most expensive player coming in as a sub didn't help this time. He's 0-2 currently, so against all odds, he wouldn't be at the top of the pack anyway after Sunday's games will be played.

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@Tassie Devils: You have only about 12 hours to create a box score post for your HGL-PL. If you do not do that, like you have been informed already, your team will be disqualified from HGL-PL and all your Season 5 scores will be turned into a 0-50 forfeit losses.

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As for other match yesterday, the excitement-factor definitely is present - just when I mentioned MLS needs a victory, they did manage to find one on overtime (against SAN). What a drama...

On last Round Three tomorrow borteam (BOR), currently at 2-0, has a chance to secure their place to HGL Season 6 by winning San Fernando VR (SAN). But it won't be an easy task - it should once again be quite even and interesting match!

@all HGL-PL managers:
Note that same system of rating teams after "Regular Season" (yes, this is RS also in HGL-PL, albeit a short one!) is used than is being used in HGL. You can find more information and additional link from HGL's league table posts.

As mentioned on next post, correct match link for TD-MLS for tomorrow's HGL-PL Round is not available (wrong match is number 139778026). The one available in M.L.S. REICH box score post is played 2 hours too late. MLS and TD have been contacted about this.

Last edited by Wagner at 7/25/2026 4:40:28 AM

From: Wagner

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Date: 7/25/2026 4:32:34 AM
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HGL-PL post,
@M.L.S. REICH (and also partly to Tassie Devils):

Hi,
I'm contacting you again about your tomorrow's match vs Tassie Devils.

Has this already been organized?

Match link currently available in your box score post will not be accepted as result, it's played 2 hours too late.

Please send it ASAP.

Otherwise we might face problematic situation, in where you, who are responsible for sending match offer, has sent a wrong offer (if and as you have sent an offer, which you are officially responsible of doing at least).

If TD will be disqualified from HGL-PL, you might be "saved by the bell", but otherwise we'd be in an awkward situation.

So please report to me what's the current situation.

Last edited by Wagner at 7/25/2026 4:32:58 AM

From: Wagner

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Date: 7/25/2026 5:35:26 PM
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HGL-PL post,
@all HGL-PL managers, and especially
@ TazDevil/Tassie Devils:


Due to not communicating when requested, and especially due to not creating HGL-PL box score post regardless of multiple requests to act and reply to my BBMails and forum posts, and regardless of multiple logins by you during that process,
I have no option than to disqualify your team Tassie Devils from Season 5 HGL-PL.

This will turn all your match results as 0-50 forfeit losses, and leave you last in HGL-PL standings.


We simply can't have managers in HGL or HGL-PL, that refuse to correct issues or communicate, if they're temporarily unable to solve them. It's an all-manual league, which simply suffers too much from such acts (or a lack thereof). We all need to "pull the same string" to get things happen, and lack of communication also doesn't really have "respect" writtten on it either (at least how I see it).

This is especially frustrating, as you were kind of hanging in there, and also now Sunday's Round Three match is organized at proper time. But lack of serious attempt to solve the box score post-issue (none of us have any idea what part of it you found impossible, so we were unable to help, other than with quite detailed instructions, such as this: (331392.175), and providing you almost ready box score posting for copy-pasting) and letting us/me know what is the problem is the dealbreaker here.

While I feel sorry for how it went, on that part it was "my fault" that in hindsight I probably tried to remedy the situation too long, despite you replying to me before that you would find it better that you'd be left out because you can't seem to be able to solve the box score post-issue (creating your box score post, I assume, as that's the only thing not currently done).
I thought we can get this sorted out after generous extra time given to solve it, because I know from experience how easy it can be once you get a grasp of it, but I had no luck with it this time. Other than not being specific enough in your communication (so that we could solve your issues), I have no intention to say bad words on you here - you instead seemed like a nice fellow. It's just that sometimes I put quite a lot of hours into HGL, and personally I definitely prefer that communication will be maintained at least to an extent necessary (to get HGL-related things sorted out), as failing in that often causes extra work to myself and awkward situation also to other participants of HGL and/or HGL-PL.

So I'm sorry, other HGL-PL managers, for having to wait for this long (due to myself being on the lenient side this time), but at least now you know all games against Tassie Devils (TD) will be forfeit wins for your team on Season 5.

Last edited by Wagner at 7/25/2026 5:43:43 PM

From: Wagner

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331392.235 in reply to 331392.234
Date: 7/25/2026 6:30:11 PM
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HGL-PL post:

Now that Tassie Devils (TD) has been disqualified from HGL-PL, it was meaningful to update league table as well.

You can see it here (331392.21), but please note that I've done it so that MLS already have 3 played matches, just as TD (because game is already forfeited).

Round Three is still being played, but practically (unless someone spots an error in my logic/thinking), everything is still open for grabs (in terms of league table positions).

This meaning that if BOR would lose their last match, they end up in 2 wins, just like MLS, and also then SAN.

So SAN, winning their last match against BOR, could reach 2 wins situation.

This would bring us to a rare three way-tie situation, in where none of teams could be lifted up or dropped down from comparison group due to winning or losing against all "comparison group teams" during Regular Season, and in such situation tie would be solved like this; see the "rule compilation", from 1. to 4.: (328546.121).

But, if SAN would beat BOR by 4 points exactly, then we'd be in a ridiculous 2W-1L and +50 three way-tie... Frankly, I hope we don't have to get that mathematical here.
However, these 3 posts (this first one and 2 that follow it) summarize the whole comparison process (here: (328546.113), should it not be possible to solve with methods in first link.

But if for some unbelievable reason all points allowed, scored etc. should be tied (very, very unlikely) then I don't know it'd be better to give preference to team that has announced their interest earlier, or to a team with higher top8-salaries when starting HGL-PL on that Season. If I'd have to answer now (and I kind of have to, as it's played already tomorrow), I'd for now answer giving the preference for higher top8-salary team.

Last edited by Wagner at 7/25/2026 6:35:22 PM

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