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I don't think you play the game closely enough to see what is actually happening, and being on the staff often causes you to miss the current affair the times.Also with a position of your title, no matter how long you've been here. To claim that **Walkover aren't done to manipulate standings** is simply not true. Out of respect, I will just say I 100% disagree.

Walkovers have changed the standings many times, and they can even hand out clean walks right into the playoffs. They have manipulated the standings and they have manipulated the playoffs.

Also, I see you didn't really read the thread. Even after I pointed out that this isn't an excuse, you still wrote: **They are done by people forgetting to set their lineups or letting their team to abandon.**

I don't like wasting time repeating things that were already laid out properly, but I understand you skipped over what I wrote.

Because of your title, pointing this out will probably be taken as disrespectful, and you'll likely defend your post with aggression. But to be completely transparent, your argument just doesn't hold up. League standings *do* change because of walkovers.

In any real job, people would get fined for not showing up to work. Why do players not get fined here(u can bring losing a draft pick or etc sure ), yet it is somehow okay to hand revenue over to teams with zero player fines when they don't even show up to play? How does that make sense in any world?

As club owners, we are running businesses here. Why shouldn't we enforce that players do their job? Game or not, why isn't this not enforced when there is literally a checkbox to set 5 players? Dismissing it as just people "forgetting" is a convenient blind spot, and saying "oh well" is not an attitude any business should have.



Last edited by Big city at 8/29/2026 8:54:17 AM

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We all understand life happens and internet drops, but the game gives you a checkbox to pre-set 5 players.

As we all know setting a lineup is the player's (mangers) sole responsibility, and the game has the right tools to prevent no-shows are entirely within their control. Failing to use them isn't an internet issue—it's a lack of accountability. It also manipulation of conference conducts.

There are simply too many excuses and not enough accountability as managers. Convenience can easily become abuse if you let it. This what BB Marin was addressing to us.

While it might balance out luck-wise over time where everyone catches a break, walkovers still shift league standings and playoff spots.

As club owners running businesses here, we shouldn't just shrug and accept avoidable no-shows. Let's find a fair middle ground that respects real-life emergencies( let them state that issue, not just assume) an internet outage can be solved just set 5 player at the beginning the season. It create better balance while still holding managers to a standard.


No player set make them pay a fine.. per player. Each team needs a lineup.. I will say this some-manager are not actively playing the game and have line up set.

Last edited by Big city at 8/29/2026 9:15:22 AM

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I don't need to bring you specific case-by-case examples of malicious intent because the reason a manager misses a game is entirely irrelevant to the damage it causes. Whether a manager maliciously plans a walkover to throw a match, or simply forgets to check a single box to field five players, the mechanical reality of the game is identical: one team is handed a free win, zero player fatigue, and a completely unearned structural advantage.


When you dismiss this as just '99% careless managers' and say 'oh well,' you are looking at global, macroscopic data from a staff perspective and completely missing the micro-reality on the ground. This why I said you don't play competitive only on a moderator level .A lot would agree with that . As you should, no disrespect in that

To an active manager watching a playoff bracket shift because a competitor got a free pass, statistical averages across 70 seasons ago data don't matter. The competitive balance was broken in their specific league, today.

We are acting as club owners running a virtual businesses . In no real-world system do you tolerate a partner failing to show up to work, handing free revenue and unearned victories to competitors, and wave it away as a simple mistake. It isn’t about being on a high horse; it about league and game integrity , furthermore don't bring politicians into this, it has no place on the site kindly GM.

This about protecting the basic integrity of the competition and the spirit of the game as any manger has to voice should do.. If having a GM title means accepting loopholes just because they happen quietly, then I am completely content with my perspective."

Because BB Marin is tired this lazy attitude among the community.. I don't agree with how he handles his update..but as look forward in staff as ur self, saying it not big deal . The he ain't wrong for what he trying to do. Because it too many folk comfortable with loop holes They want use status to keep it that way . The game has past you on this issue. .

No way should u say this is ok .NO,.not at all .!!



Last edited by Big city at 8/29/2026 1:41:01 PM

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I don’t understand why you’re asking me this or sending me this information. Why should I have contacted them?

Im talking about walkover in-the games overall.No direct teams, the system of it,. I put a poll.

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You’re trying to shift the conversation away from the actual point, and I’m not going to let that happen.—I raised a legitimate question about the walkover mechanic and its impact on other managers.

And the “it’s a game, not a job” comment is beside the point. Exactly because it’s a game, the rules should protect fair competition. If five players are required, then five players should take the floor instead of allowing a 50–0 result that can affect someone else’s season.

I also expected a better response from a manager like yourself ,rather than trying to make this about something I never said or something it is not!

Why do I bring up your role? Because leadership requires accountability and respect in name


With your tenure and GM title, you should be providing actionable solutions, not inventing hypothetical scenarios and political analogies to fit a personal narratives. None can decode.

Let's focus entirely on the facts. If you have a concrete plan to address walkovers and ranking integrity, present it. Did u not select something els. Why can't you present it ! Why make this harder or negative which it isn't

It is completely contradictory for you to suddenly claim ignorance on a matter, you have managed this issue multiple times throughout your tenure and lable of gm and egm.at one point . If this issue is truly beyond your understanding in words written and discussed, then your commentary is entirely counterproductive.

Don't take offense in that . You asked a straight question. If have a solution beyond quips ,please kingly present.it, If not don't.

Last edited by Big city at 8/30/2026 4:44:02 PM

You still have not provided an example on this matter

I've read quite a few forum posts from you, and somehow, you always manage to start an agument for no reason

Last edited by NBA_Dodo at 8/30/2026 5:49:32 PM