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I don't think about me, I've enough money but how do you think the new users can build a team with this high price?
The prices didn't go down, in this time we pay more than last season the same player, BBs said they were monitoring the situation, now maybe is time to do something if you want to collect more users. The bonus if you're promoted is absolutely low compare to the prices we've to face in the TL. I would need to know if this is the "final" system or if something will be done, if BBs think to keep this situation it's fine I've to program a little bit my strategy for the future.

I agree.
BBs have to do something about the inflation, mainly because of the new users, as we all can face a significant cut down in terms of active teams. I cant remember how much new users get when they first get their team, but probably is not enough to compete with new transfers prices and, most important, to compete with coach's astronomic prices (i remember to pay about 200k for a 20k/week level 5 coach not so long ago and now they cost 3x more).

You picked one player transfer from many thousands that were done. This does not really help to make a point. I don't want to be rude, just explaining something.

In my opinion higher prices are more fair than what we had before. Mainly because there are three main ways to aquire money (or high value players) in BB, they are:
Performance (Divsion, Attendance)
Training
Draft

If we put Trainer lvl and scouting costs aside only the Performance helps top teams more than an average team. This spoken training had very little value a few seasons ago. With today transfer prices however the value gathered from training, especially for lower league teams, is much higher. In fact I believe the prices help to check top teams from becoming even more advanced over other teams. I hope I made myself clear

Just a little example from my team (Div IV):
I had about 2 millions revenue last season (Performance). I trained mainly two players the whole season. This is just an estimate, but I think my PG's value increased from 0.5m to 1.2m and my SG's from 8k (bought for 8k) to 500k.
The training value is therefore close to 1.2m while I made a lot more from my performance and I am only in fourth division. So even today's player prices value training not too high, IMO.

I hope my train of thoughts was not too confusing ;)

Cheers, Exos


edit to Ardinario:
Not every new team needs a lvl 5 trainer. Lvl 4 trainers are much cheaper and still cause quite some training pops.

Last edited by Exos at 12/29/2009 09:55:47

Of course the example was taken just like "an example" but I check the market since 3 months and believe me the prices now are higher than last season. It means that if you start now with a new team you can't invest well the money, anyway BBs told clearly last season that they care about the economic situation and I'd like to know the result they obtained; in addiction they put again the FA on the TL cause they would like to stop the inflaction and it seems to me that FAs weren't the solution to the inflaction problem. Only to point out, for me what happens now can be also acceptable I don't want to find any surprise in a couple of days. What I'd like to know at the end is if this matter is acceptable or BBs will take care again about inflaction; for me it was 100 times better 2 seasons ago, it was hard to manage the team but there weren't a lot of DTraders but imho, I will not discuss if someone will tell us that we can proceed in this way ;)

edit to Ardinario:
Not every new team needs a lvl 5 trainer. Lvl 4 trainers are much cheaper and still cause quite some training pops.

You are right, but you missed a point. If there isn't an increase on initial funds and promotion bonus, something unfair is on the air, because these teams weren't given the opportunity to keep up with the current higher prices. They have been caught in the middle of the storm...

Believe me prices did go down for the most of the players but they have stayed the same for the very small percent of rare high skilled players like your example.

I agree.
BBs have to do something about the inflation, mainly because of the new users, as we all can face a significant cut down in terms of active teams.

Except that BB is setting new records for the amount of users.

I will not discuss those numbers, but how can we know where new users come from? There must be a 1000 reasons. The point is: how long do they stay? More time than before?
Sorry for the off-topic.

I will not discuss those numbers, but how can we know where new users come from? There must be a 1000 reasons. The point is: how long do they stay? More time than before?
Sorry for the off-topic.

They have to be staying, since we've set records for both total users and users online at once.

Ok, then. That's great!

no, the prices go down a little bit during the weeks after the playoff even if I remeber an u21 Israel sold for 9,1m, another u21 from Morocco if I remember well sold for 8,5m and so on, but now you pay 5m for "normal" players.
Then there are also other aspects to consider:

1) Top teams have an arena of 20k seats (all the top teams, you can check), with the cap arena it's a waste of money to invest it in arena
2) Specialists can't go out from the system huge money
3) Top teams are still having a profit at the end of the week, from 50 to 500k/week depending from the competition of the division were they are
4) It's clear to everyone that a player with 400k/week salary doesn't play on the parquet 2 times better than a player that earns 200k/week, it means that all the best managers have the possibility to be very competitive saving a lot of money (and this season like last season saving means earning)

If there is a profit and there aren't enough ways to invest the money this create inflaction with the "problem" that you've only one solution to spend your money and this solution is the market so I don't see how BBs can stop this if they don't change something.

About the new users BBs are not interested in people that open an account and then they stop to play after 1 week ;)

Last edited by ned at 12/29/2009 11:09:22