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141381.1
Date: 04/20/2010 13:32:50
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So there is some debate on the help forum about how to effectively defend inside scoring. I am of the opinion that man-to-man is almost always the best option against inside teams*, but there are a few very vocal people who still use 2-3. It struck me that most managers I've talked to who swear by man or even 3-2 are Canadian.



Do any Canadian managers like to use 2-3? How do you try to shut down inside attacks? Do people think it differs at different levels?


* My reasoning is that inside scoring relies heavily on generating good shots, the key to stop good shots from being created is perimeter defense, not ID. Particularly if you're outgunned downlow it can be much more effective then trying to slow down dominant big men after they get a good shot opportunity.

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141381.2 in reply to 141381.1
Date: 04/20/2010 13:58:34
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Man to man can still be tough... If your SF cannot defend inside and you play man you are leaving a gaping hole. That's when a 3-2 becomes an acceptable defense against an inside attack.

The only positive to the 2-3 zone in my mind is the extra rebounding. I guess you could also hide a poor outside defending SF, but if you need to run a 2-3 zone to do that, I think you have issues.

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141381.3 in reply to 141381.1
Date: 04/20/2010 20:31:36
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i thought the 2-3 zone was made specifically to discourage inside shots and encourage perimeter shots?
im still trying to figure out how the stats and tactics work in relation to each other in this game, but i use 2-3 zone against strong IS (both rating and tactic) opponents

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141381.4 in reply to 141381.3
Date: 04/20/2010 22:42:29
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i thought the 2-3 zone was made specifically to discourage inside shots and encourage perimeter shots?
im still trying to figure out how the stats and tactics work in relation to each other in this game, but i use 2-3 zone against strong IS (both rating and tactic) opponents

In theory, yes. But I am asking about how people have experienced it in the actual game.
My theory/experience is that 2-3 does a good job of defending shots in the post, but man to man and even 3-2 do a better job of preventing those shots from happening or forcing the opponent to take bad shots inside. I gather that a lot of the better Canadian managers operate on a similar assumption.

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141381.5 in reply to 141381.4
Date: 04/21/2010 08:05:24
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just take a look at the last naismith final (20361775). sadeh scored tons of points despite being an average shooter and going against an all-world defender because of the 2-3 zone. it will shutdown inside shots, but leave everything else vulnerable. the choice of man or 3-2 depends on the offensive rhythm of the other team as well as the matchups down low. can't really be said that one or the other is better, depends on the specifics of both teams.

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141381.6 in reply to 141381.3
Date: 04/21/2010 08:08:02
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i thought the 2-3 zone was made specifically to discourage inside shots and encourage perimeter shots?


As Chris said, the problem is that you reduce your perimeter d too much with a 2-3 zone. This allows for better passing lanes, which allows your opponent to move the ball around at will and find their best match-up faster.

I will go even further on the issue... You will notice if you watch a look inside/low post game that their are a fair number of short jump shots (maybe even close to 50% on some occasions). I gather that the decreased outside d in a 2-3 zone also makes it difficult to defend these types of shots.

Run of the Mill Canadian Manager