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From: E.B.W.

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300054.2 in reply to 300054.1
Date: 6/15/2019 11:02:37 AM
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I think rebounding is one of the skills that is a little overrated, especially for the salary that it adds to bigs. I think a player with bad rebounding is a lot smaller of a hole than a player with bad OD or lower ID/SB.

I believe that rebounding is largely a team influenced stat, and many times, while all other players are boxing out, the ball will simply fall to a guy with bad rebounding because his team as a whole is better at rebounding.

The truth is that the difference between a guy with 12 REB and a guy with 15 REB only equates to a few more rebounds a game, and many times getting better rebounding at the 1-3 spots makes up for those 2-3 rebounds and saves a lot of salary.

My typical starting SG has atrocious rebounding and still averages 3.9-4.0 rebounds per 48 minutes.

Even more interesting is that my backup C (11 REB) averages 18.1 REB per 48 minutes and my starting C (15 REB) averages only 18.6 REB per 48 minutes. Not a big difference at all. Sure who they are rebounding against will make a difference but my overall point in that there is just a tiny gap of rebounding between players with varying skill level is still shown I think.

Last edited by E.B.W. at 6/15/2019 11:05:08 AM

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Date: 6/15/2019 11:10:49 AM
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I won't post name since he is on the TL, but this is a guy that shows how much salary you can save by not having rebounding. His passing is also low which is a salary saver. This is a 131 TSP player with 16-17 in all other big skills, but only a salary of 77k. Very interesting! He averaged 7.6 rebounds last season in 36 mpg, for perspective.

Weekly salary: $ 77 560
Role: regular starter


DMI: 585800
Age: 33
Height: 6'9" / 206 cm
Potential: MVP
Game Shape: respectable
Jump Shot: prodigious ↑ Jump Range: tremendous
Outside Def.: proficient Handling: prodigious
Driving: stupendous ↑ Passing: mediocre
Inside Shot: prodigious Inside Def.: stupendous
Rebounding: mediocre Shot Blocking: stupendous
Stamina: average Free Throw: strong

Experience: prolific TSP: 131 (76 + 55)


Last edited by E.B.W. at 6/15/2019 11:12:30 AM

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Date: 6/15/2019 8:31:41 PM
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Sure, I agree with you, but then all you need to do is lower the gap. The player I showed was just to point out how you can lower the salary of a player by basically 100k if you don't train any Rebounding. I understand that he gives up extra rebounds and due to that extra points to the other team, but all that saved salary also allows you to upgrade your other positions, that was the point I was making.

I still don't think you need to have 17-18 REB ever, unless you truly don't care about salary at all. In D.I I'm sure you can lower the gap, have bigs with 14-15 REB and they would still do fine in my eyes. There are so many NT bigs that have 15 REB around the world who dominate.

I think (for USA at least) :

11-12 REB is enough at the bigs spots in D.III
13 REB is enough at the bigs spots in D.II
14-15 REB is enough at the bigs spots in D.I

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Date: 6/16/2019 4:48:41 PM
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Thanks for the perspective! Its always cool talking about these things.

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