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74907.12 in reply to 74907.10
Date: 2/25/2009 8:31:13 AM
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I don't actually agree with that. experience gains from the NT are kinda small, unlike in hattrick. I've seen players who were NT starters for four seasons barely gain a level… let's face it, experience is just broken.


That may be true, but it's also true that the top experiences we have are all guys that have had extensive NT time. Now, it may take a long time to build up, and it's actual effect in games is an open question, but there's something there, and it's at least worth considering.

As for potential, I agree that's a problem. It's also in part due to the fact that most of the NT are guys who have been trained since before the potential system came into place. Finding these type of guys when they're 18 and trying to get them the best training possible is perhaps the most important thing the u21 coach could do at this point.

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Date: 2/25/2009 8:44:14 AM
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Controversial question maybe, but, this is BB and the enthusiasm system is what it is so:

How would you handle mutual enthusiasm deal on the NT level? If you were offered a deal would you consider it? Would you consider offering deals at any point?

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74907.15 in reply to 74907.7
Date: 2/25/2009 11:23:40 AM
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more like harrell, serrano, marcum and faust.

there's no point in pretending it didn't happen — the junior nt had to take a backseat to the full nt interests, there's nothing weird about it, and it might probably happen again in the next term (the 21yo big men with potential are gonna rule the world right here right now).


Well, NT Worlds were more important than U21 qualifying to a degree.

This time around, U21 Worlds would have been more important than NT Americas Qualifying (which we breezed through).

The Worlds take priority.

It's not like we have to qualify out of Europe or anything.

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74907.17 in reply to 74907.13
Date: 2/25/2009 3:52:43 PM
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Yeah, it's part of the game, so I'd certainly consider it. I think Coco's answer pretty much nails it, frankly. The only thing I'd add is that there's about to be a big u21 coach turnover, and we often won't really know who's trustworthy for these things, so I'd tend to only accept in cases where I was planning to TIE anyway, or where I was already reasonably confident we'd be playing at the same level anyway and have enough history on the other coach to know he'll stick to it. A one-strike policy seems prudent here (if they've violated an offer with any other team, ever, it's not worth the risk). When it comes to knock out games/worlds/etc, I don't think it's worth the risk (again, unless you were planning to TIE anyway).

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74907.19 in reply to 74907.18
Date: 2/25/2009 6:18:55 PM
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One of the things our current pair of coaches seems not to have done so well is to really increase community interest here in the US.


If only there was a way to post press releases on the NT page...

On a serious note, I'd love to hear the answer to this.

I know when we had the chat, we got 20+ people for Reed Mcallister's shining moment.

I want to increase things as well.

Last edited by Edju at 2/25/2009 6:20:16 PM

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A CT? Really?
Any two will do
Any three for me
Any four will score
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74907.20 in reply to 74907.18
Date: 2/25/2009 6:35:33 PM
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Are those threads in global? I think a certain number of us are just weary of that morass.

I do have a question for the BB hat though - why should we care about the national team as club owners? We don't get anything from it (well I guess I do occasionally get to see how Qu plays at positions other than PG but I would get the same from private leagues). I've always found the breaking up by country in online sports games to be odd to say the least. The only case I can make for it in my mind is that you want to give people a chance to communicate with people who speak the same primary language, so why not create X language leagues? This would also lead to more balanced league structures as leagues as added as demand dictates.

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