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From: Antwon

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Date: 03/24/2021 21:25:53
Jim Almeidas Janitor Crew
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Oof, not a very good look from the previous coach there mr. lambini.......

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Date: 03/24/2021 22:44:03
Greensboro Generals
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I've seen complaints from those who feel that appointments to the squad are based almost as much on how chummy they are with the cabal as opposed to how much the player can help


Still waiting.


Oh so you want me to name names? Who the hell do you think you are, Joe McCarthy? Next thing you'll be asking if I have ever been a member of the communist party. It does not matter who has said what, or when, or under what circumstances. Of course you can't please all the people all the time, but feathers have been rankled and again as I have said there has been zero engagement of the user base as a whole. But I will get into that more when I finally post a true speech.

But let me ask this. If you guys are so engaged, so skilled, so to be trusted, then why have we not seen a world gold since the 20s for either program and not even a trip to the final in 10 seasons for the u21 and going on 17 for the main squad? I tell you why, because the control has stayed in the same group for so long that those already not in the loop probably find the prospect of getting a prospect on the radar to just not be worth the hassle.


Last edited by Coach Lambini at 03/24/2021 22:45:47

From: Stabby

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308441.14 in reply to 308441.10
Date: 03/25/2021 00:03:03
Chicago Nightmare
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haha boner killed me lol

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308441.15 in reply to 308441.13
Date: 03/25/2021 05:13:57
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So you lied that player selection to the roster was based on being friends with me and not on actual skills. Got it.

I once had a team with 1757 players and was $25,835,360 in debt. This is not that team. Join the Discord group open to anyone, but especially for USA managers to improve your club or get involved with the U21 and NT programs (https://discord.gg/cKpNkt2).
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Date: 03/25/2021 06:08:35
Greensboro Generals
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So you lied that player selection to the roster was based on being friends with me and not on actual skills. Got it.



Now I could go back and find the conversation pertaining to this and put that person out on front street, but again that is immaterial and from my point of view would be terribly unfair to that person, if they wanted to chime in with their story in this forum they would. Plus if I were to I would need to be able to repeat verbatim what was said lest there be misinterpretation.

But to give a little more insight, from the best of my recollection, the player in question was around 150 tsp and from what I recall wonderfully rounded. The manager was of the opinion that others were chosen who in their view were not as worthy. This manager also found some other appointments and how they were being utilized to be less than optimal. Is it possible I am misinterpreting? Very much so. But am I inventing something from whole cloth? No.

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Date: 03/25/2021 07:37:32
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Here’s a fun fact for you that other nations can enjoy: a whopping ZERO players at 150 TSP in the USA have been left off the team during my time with the NT. You don’t have to name who that player is, but naming who was chosen ahead of them would be a step in a discussion for why players were selected.

I once had a team with 1757 players and was $25,835,360 in debt. This is not that team. Join the Discord group open to anyone, but especially for USA managers to improve your club or get involved with the U21 and NT programs (https://discord.gg/cKpNkt2).
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308441.19 in reply to 308441.18
Date: 03/25/2021 09:37:14
Greensboro Generals
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Here’s a fun fact for you that other nations can enjoy: a whopping ZERO players at 150 TSP in the USA have been left off the team during my time with the NT. You don’t have to name who that player is, but naming who was chosen ahead of them would be a step in a discussion for why players were selected.



Fair enough point. But I think your missing my real point, since the days of Fewmit controlled the u21 back from 22-25 been under the control of you and the brethren AKA Cabal, or whatever moniker I feel best describes you guys. But to be fair the structure that is in place came to be because the program had been left to rot. And to the credit of you guys there were great strides made to where we had actually gotten BETTER than ever, but I think the results for the last 15 seasons or so overall has shown a ceiling has been reached. Something just a little different needs to happen to fulfill manifest destiny in the way only Muricans know how.

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Date: 03/25/2021 10:12:13
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No, the real point is you said players were selected due to whether or not they had a favorable relationship with me. You continue to move the goalposts away from that accusation and I can’t let that simply slide by the wayside.

To say that the 22-25s have been under my of “the Cabal”’s control shows you continue to lack knowledge in how anything is even structured. The last 15 seasons include the pipeline being completely barren because the team structure essentially died. It has been revitalized and the team is as strong as ever. Maybe I was just a bad manager that didn’t take care of that enough, but your ignorance of how any of this works is constantly astounding.

I once had a team with 1757 players and was $25,835,360 in debt. This is not that team. Join the Discord group open to anyone, but especially for USA managers to improve your club or get involved with the U21 and NT programs (https://discord.gg/cKpNkt2).
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Date: 03/25/2021 13:10:31
Greensboro Generals
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No, the real point is you said players were selected due to whether or not they had a favorable relationship with me. You continue to move the goalposts away from that accusation and I can’t let that simply slide by the wayside.

To say that the 22-25s have been under my of “the Cabal”’s control shows you continue to lack knowledge in how anything is even structured. The last 15 seasons include the pipeline being completely barren because the team structure essentially died. It has been revitalized and the team is as strong as ever. Maybe I was just a bad manager that didn’t take care of that enough, but your ignorance of how any of this works is constantly astounding.



The state of the team is not strong as ever, the state of our community in terms of involvement across all lines is at a complete bottom. This used to be a site of witty repartee with a user base that had a wonderfully snarky bent. Now we just sling crap at each other like monkeys in a zoo. YOU guys are not helping, or yelping.

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Date: 03/25/2021 13:40:47
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Still avoiding an answer for your false accusation.

You can’t know the state of the team because, as I’ve said, you’ve refused to be involved and instead “sling crap...like monkeys in a zoo” constantly.

And that “witty repartee” just isn’t in the 1997 style forums anymore. It’s at the USA Discord. The link to join is in my signature.

I once had a team with 1757 players and was $25,835,360 in debt. This is not that team. Join the Discord group open to anyone, but especially for USA managers to improve your club or get involved with the U21 and NT programs (https://discord.gg/cKpNkt2).
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