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My only problem was that I sold a couple of players just before the news because I could win my division anyway. If I had known about the floor, I would have kept the players and won by 40 instead of 10.

That's a generalization that you seem to have pulled out of thin air. I'm a relatively new team that is fine with the floor (just wish it was announced earlier).

I'd still like to know, how does the upstart team with no chance to stick in their new league not lose fan support the following season?

Instead of preventing tanking, you should have rewarded competing. Stajan is a good example of this, but there are dozens, probably hundreds every season - the well-managed team that wins its weak league and promotes into a strong league, where their arena is too small and the players too weak, and inevitably gets relegated despite competing every game against far stronger and more established competition.

In real life promotion/relegation scenarios, fans understand the reality of these situations and stand with their team. In BB, fans deem the season a failure and doom the team to financial ruin. This is what made tanking financially feasible, of course - if you're going to take the hit, you might as well take as much money as you can with you.

I feel like this idea (preventing tankers for the good of the league) is halfway developed, and should not have been implemented until the other half (rewarding competitors and giving them a road to profitability) was complete.

Can a GM or BB respond to this? A few managers who I joined the game with are facing this exact situation, as are hundreds more, I'd imagine. It's a bit shocking that the floor could suddenly send a large number of teams into relative ruin, because they dared to be successful.

This makes some sense, but it also removes winning as the singular goal that it should be. IRL teams that promote through a league structure don't get penalized if their arena doesn't keep up witht the teams success. There may be a financial penalty, but nothing that indirectly affects fan support.

I notice that both of you used NFL examples, which aren't really applicable.

In BB, a team like Stajan, a relative upstart that has a great season at II and gets to Naismith, is more similar to a club like Blackpool in the EPL. Neither team is set up for immediate long-term success - arena expansions could come but they'll take time. The point is that the fan support penalty for relegating for a team like that is ridiculous. Fans will realize that it's still a small club, so they won't expect immediate success at a very high level - just an attempt to succeed.

As it stands, it makes financial sense for an upstart II team to intentionally lose in the league finals instead of trying for promotion. This should NEVER be the case.

Last edited by RiseandFire at 4/25/2011 9:20:41 PM