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Without cup matches, the lineup strategy becomes somewhat boring

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323509.13 in reply to 323509.12
Date: 05/01/2024 17:56:00
Guma Terror
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i think this is the worst part, specially since you can use any tactic in any game that you want which is totally unrealistic

i think there should be a tactic "knowledge" for every team and use random tactics should be heavy penalized if you use it with "training" the tactic first. in this way each should only have 3 o 4 tactics to be used and would force people to use scrimmage tactics to train the tactic to use in competitive and important matches, similar to other games like hattrick

in this sense, it would be better to "scout" other teams also, since right now any team can suddenly play something else without any consequences making studying the other team almost irrelevant

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323509.14 in reply to 323509.13
Date: 05/02/2024 10:33:32
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This is an interesting idea, but I guess it would be difficult to convince vested interests.
I suggest you create a new post for it for two reasons:
1. It's a fairly large topic.
2. It's not directly related to this thread.
While it does add more meaning to scrimmages, it feels similar to the training situation.
Some people still find Thursdays boring without the cup.

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323509.15 in reply to 323509.2
Date: 05/02/2024 11:07:35
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I find it a bit strange to have to choose between two different paths for promotion.
Also, no matter if it's the Monrad system or the Dutch system, I'm worried that the computational workload might be too high, resulting in delays in scheduling.
Therefore, I have a new solution.

Plan D: Remove the promotion-related aspects from Plan C, and allow for repeated matches against the same opponents.

I'll briefly outline the content.
- After being eliminated from the cup or after the cup ends, teams will enter a ranked tournament instead of a scrimmage. (keep records)
- From being eliminated from the cup to Week 11 (with two matches during the All-Star week)
- Using a system: always #1 meets #2, #3 meets #4, etc., (not in the score groups)
without the restriction that no players can meet for a second time.
- Attitude is set to normal, the same as in scrimmages. (Open to discussion.)
- Neutral area (Open to discussion.)
- Add an additional statement to the Fan Survey: "The team had a good run in the ranked tournament this year."
- The award should be small.
For example, scale down the piecewise linear function to 0.2 times.
1st place: 100,000
17th place: 62,500
81st place: 37,500
337th place: 25,000
1361st place: 20,000
5457th place (non-existent): 15,000
(This way, rewards are visible and tangible)

1. In this way, most teams would have their key players start in both league matches, similar to current habits, without sacrificing additional league matches.
2. Like Plan C, the number of scheduling scrimmages is reduced to three, which can improve the complaint that some find scheduling scrimmages bothersome.
3. The meaning of the ranked tournament is to understand how strong their rotation players and backups are compared to those of other teams.
Managers would be more motivated to adjust tactics, making Thursdays a bit more interesting than before.
Unlike scrimmages, where managers primarily focus on training minutes and game shape management.

p.s.
1. In Plan C, for teams that did not participate in the cup at the beginning, they could play against each other in the Ranked tournament starting from Week 1, instead of having no matches on Thursday of Week 1, which would be more reasonable.
2. The system: always #1 meets #2, #3 meets #4, etc., should have a very low computational workload.
I'm not sure about the computational workload of the Dutch system (Swiss system) without the restriction that no players can meet for a second time.
If there is another system with acceptable computational workload and better effectiveness, it could be considered.

2024/5/23 update: This system (Random2 and allow for repeated matches against the same opponents) (323515.4) is another option.

Last edited by little Guest at 05/23/2024 09:46:48