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216751.135 in reply to 216751.129
Date: 7/14/2012 9:59:55 PM
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Ya, It was a big game for my team coming back from 20, catching 3rd and beating a high ranked team. BTW we both went TIE.

GG Serpents, see you in the Playoffs.

Last edited by King James 136 at 7/14/2012 10:00:39 PM

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216751.136 in reply to 216751.135
Date: 7/14/2012 10:05:38 PM
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If you CT me I will eat you.

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216751.137 in reply to 216751.136
Date: 7/14/2012 10:09:13 PM
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I will make a special occasion and CT you. ;) Trolololol

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216751.138 in reply to 216751.137
Date: 7/17/2012 7:43:12 AM
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I would like to ask, who actually puts a lot of money (20,000 +) per week into scouting...

To me it seems like a waste so I dont put anything, but I would like your opinions and some numbers too.

Last edited by King James 136 at 7/17/2012 7:43:41 AM

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216751.139 in reply to 216751.138
Date: 7/17/2012 12:14:59 PM
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I devote 5,000/wk into recruiting and haven't spent a point in the last 3 seasons. I will when I get to divIII and actually have a decent pick.

On another note, TK is adangerous team. Their PG and PF are unstoppable for me. I am actually more nervous about them than most teams in our division.

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216751.140 in reply to 216751.139
Date: 7/17/2012 3:31:01 PM
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I hope its someone really good, because this is how I think about it...

3 seasons 14 weeks per season 5,000 a week

Thats 70000 a season x3 210,000

So I hope the guy is worth more than 210,000 or you could have just bought him.

And yes, I scouted TK and saw his frickin 48K PG...

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216751.141 in reply to 216751.119
Date: 7/17/2012 4:00:59 PM
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LBJ's last 2 years in Cleveland:
*regular season*
'08-'09
CLE
81 81 37.7 9.7-19.9 .489 1.6-4.7 .344 7.3-9.4 .780 1.3 6.3 7.6 7.2 1.1 1.7 1.7 3.0 28.4
'09-'10
CLE
76 76 39.0 10.1-20.1 .503 1.7-5.1 .333 7.8-10.2 .767 0.9 6.4 7.3 8.6 1.0 1.6 1.6 3.4 29.7
..both MVP seasons...

...and post season

'08-'09
CLE
14 14 41.4 11.4-22.3 .510 1.9-5.8 .333 10.6-14.2 .749 1.4 7.8 9.2 7.3 0.9 1.6 2.1 2.7 35.3
'09-'10
CLE
11 11 41.8 9.6-19.2 .502 1.8-4.5 .400 8.0-10.9 .733 1.4 7.9 9.3 7.6 1.8 1.7 2.1 3.8 29.1

Those are incredible numbers MJ/Big O-type numbers. Bottom line is, LBJ wasn't the problem.....Dan Gilbert was the problem. And frankly, your expectations that players SHOULDN'T be worried about their brand is ridiculous given the nature of ANY business, but especially the entertainment business (e.g. NBA).

I understand as a Cavs fan you felt stabbed in the back...but just like loyal players like one of my favs Derek Fisher, felt stabbed in the back by the Lakers for letting him go, and eventually replacing him with someone the same age and worse D (Steve Nash) - It works both ways. Thats the nature of the business. There IS no loyalty. Only $$$.

*Quick Point* LBJ took LESS money to go to the Heat because he felt he had a better chance with Pat Riley and the Heat. So its also about winning. LBJ proved (this season) if you put REAL players around him, his team will win championships. Its just too bad Dan Gilbert didn't seize the opportunity of having one of the greatest players for 7 years.

Good luck this season.

Last edited by gfunkxxx at 7/17/2012 4:04:33 PM

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216751.142 in reply to 216751.141
Date: 7/17/2012 5:54:12 PM
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Gilbert didn't have LBJ for 7 seasons, FYI. He bought the team a couple years after he was drafted. He inherited a team with very bad assets outside of LBJ. It took the front office a few years just to get rid of debts and turn the team around. By that point, LBJ was already dead set on leaving to be with his Olympic buddies and it made it near impossible to attract quality free agents to the team so they were forced with trading more future assets to acquire them. The Cavs were the best regular season team in the NBA in 2009/2010 and Lebron choked against Boston plain and simple.

My point was that LeBron was exclusively worried about his brand. It took him 9 years to develop any semblance of a post game with that massive frame?

LBJ took less money to go to the Heat because he wanted to play with his pals Wade and Bosh. Plus, he figured he would become an international brand on the level of MJ in the Miami market so he would make his money back. It was outside his thinking that he would be despised for the way he left Cleveland.

Finally, Nash is 10x the player right now at 40 years old than Fisher ever was in his prime, even including his poor defense. Lakers let Fish go in a cap move, totally different than Lebron leaving even though I know you only meant it as an example of no loyalty.

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216751.143 in reply to 216751.140
Date: 7/17/2012 5:57:22 PM
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That is how I think of it as well, which is why I won't use the points until I am sure that I will get the best player in the draft (who will certainly be of more value than 210,000). I would say the top 3 players in any random draft generally sell for more than $200k. Plus, I value training my own players or at least American players.

I am not so worried about TKs 48k PG as I am his 40k PF. He is shooting 60% from the field on the season.

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216751.144 in reply to 216751.143
Date: 7/17/2012 9:41:14 PM
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I love you...

my face when I saw this -> http://www.buzzerbeater.com/match/46066193/boxscore.aspx

:D

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216751.145 in reply to 216751.144
Date: 7/18/2012 11:56:57 AM
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Gotta love coming back from camping and realizing that I not only lost both league games, consrquentally dropping from 3rd to 5th place, but also that I did not hit the set lineup button, so I not only lost, but also screwed up my minutes and ENTH. Sweet.

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