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We only can make clear to the managers that they have a youngster with a great future if he's well trained... and if the manager is interested give him advise for the best training and doing the folow up...

exactly.

inform the manager about the options. Inform him he can get a general coach, who will help him with his team. If he has a prospect, inform him he has, and that he can opt to go for the NT player, in which case the project of Sum kicks in if he opts to train the player. Inform him if he doesn't want to focus on 1 player training he could sell the guy and get 1.5 or maybe 2 guys for the money, which he can use for his team improvement, or hold on to the player if he chooses so.

inform inform inform. But let them do the choosing, and don't try to manipulate their choices in any way, unless they would make a clearly bad choice for their team...

I must have missed it completely then.... where is the problem ?

It looked like there was a problem with the coaching thing comming into the game for Belgium. Or did I get it wrong. Why are we discussing this then?

For me and just to clearthe situation:

The biggest problem in Belgium is that we have around 10 players in the U-21 database by positionwhen they are 18 years old. At the end of the season, 5 where correctly trained (well not correctly, I will just say trained). I'm already happy if 3 players can reach an acceptable level for the U-21 (acceptable is 20k when the player is 21 years old foe a SG and 50k for a C... wow what a miracle).
My biggest fear is that a manager asks also some advices to train his young talentfull player to an other coach and that this coach says "o you know it should be better to train A in place of B and on 2 positions in place of one" ... o yes the second position will train two guys who have more than 26 years old ... yipee!!!!

We have already a lot of problem to lead our team (NT and U-21) because in Belgium nobody want to kill his team for his country. In others lands, if they have Center with 150k as salary when he's 21 years old... it's not to help his team. (in Belgium we don't have even one player with 100k as salary ....)
I don't ask to do that because the first goal of this game is to train his team and not to help my U-21 team or the NT but if you give us some more problem ... I have others things to do than lose 10 hours /weeks (already 3 the saturday morning).

So YES it's a great idea to help the managers who want some help but don't kill the 3 little poor player that I will have to play "motion" in front of the army of shooters who play for my adversary.

The biggest problem in Belgium is that we have around 10 players in the U-21 database by positionwhen they are 18 years old. At the end of the season, 5 where correctly trained (well not correctly, I will just say trained). I'm already happy if 3 players can reach an acceptable level for the U-21 (acceptable is 20k when the player is 21 years old foe a SG and 50k for a C... wow what a miracle).
My biggest fear is that a manager asks also some advices to train his young talentfull player to an other coach and that this coach says "o you know it should be better to train A in place of B and on 2 positions in place of one" ... o yes the second position will train two guys who have more than 26 years old ... yipee!!!!

I will put every manager that ask for help in this thread or a new one like you prefere and if there is 1 in the list that have a possible talent you can tell me about it. I'll make sure the coach he's getting will be notified of it! if We work together we can not have any problem on that fact or am I mistaken?

We have already a lot of problem to lead our team (NT and U-21) because in Belgium nobody want to kill his team for his country. In others lands, if they have Center with 150k as salary when he's 21 years old... it's not to help his team. (in Belgium we don't have even one player with 100k as salary ....)
I don't ask to do that because the first goal of this game is to train his team and not to help my U-21 team or the NT but if you give us some more problem ... I have others things to do than lose 10 hours /weeks (already 3 the saturday morning).

So YES it's a great idea to help the managers who want some help but don't kill the 3 little poor player that I will have to play "motion" in front of the army of shooters who play for my adversary.

That wasn't my goal And it will never be my goal If you tell us that the manager have a possible talent for the U21 then I will make sure that the manager will be noticed about it he will from your way out and he will from the coaches way out. it has to be possible to build a team around a talent aswell and train the talent as good as possible.
We have to look everywhere what we can do to make the belgium leagues stronger and keep the U21 on a high spot in ranking :D

it has to be possible to build a team around a talent aswell and train the talent as good as possible

That's sure, look at my team :p

So if we work like that everything is fine, the only things will be to don't accept some managers the firts week of each season (because we didn't know the skills of his young 18 players ^^)

but if you give us some more problem ...

we don't, the one proposing the help through coaching also doesn't.

Help is offered. No more, no less. It is simply not right to hope someone will stay ignorant for long enough to have a player trained by his 21. If someone does it it should be because he wants to. Not because he doesn't know any better.

don't accept some managers the firts week of each season (because we didn't know the skills of his young 18 players ^^)

with all respect but I don't think you can demand such a thing. New managers will make the most mistakes in this early stage. If they want help, we must help them.
They can still choose to train the NT player for you and Joe if you find out he has one.
What are you planning? hey, don't accept new teams, let us check first, if they have a player we are interested in, don't accept him and direct him to us so we can shape the manager into training the prospect. This is not a good practice.
The good practice is: give hi, the coach as soon as he asks. Once you find out he has a prospect, inform him about the prospect and the ability to turn him in to a star player. Inform him about the choice he has to make: either try to improve his entire team, and try to climb the ranks, or train the NT player, climb the ranks, but maybe not as effective and especially in a less economical way but also get the honor of having raised a star.

As the road to the top is long, I think some will be interested to choose for the honor of the Nt player. But the important thing is they realy need to choose for it.

The alternative would be that managers instead of asking for a coach here, wil go and ask their questions and get help everywhere they can, and then you have NO idea who is getting external help or not.
I think it's way better that you are aware of which ones get help. It will ease your work if you can communicate with the coach he is appointed, and try to find out which way the manager wants to take.

I also repeat: if the manager isn't interested in training the player, you can also request to put him for sale. It will likely improve his team if he does, so it would be good coaching as well. I'm positive non-Belgian players might also be interested in training the player.
It doesn't need to be so bad as we might fear.

Standard each new team gets a welcome message from a GM speaking the language they selected. In that message help is offered. So the new teams are offered help right when they start out. A coaching system will only help them, and the game AND the NTs IF those managers decide to choose that path.

Wees eens eerlijk er zijn heel weinig startende teams die een potentieel talent direct in hun team krijgen.
Het is voor die teams dat we dit systeem eigenlijk opzetten zodat ze ook hulp kunnen krijgen en als de draft er is dan beginnen jullie pas te kijken of er een eventueel talent in alle teams zit
En ik zal elk nieuw seizoen contact met je opnemen zodat je weet welke teams(met hun coaches) er in het programma zitten, dan kan jij ons ook zeggen er zit een eventueel talent in zijn team zit zodat we hem dat ook kunnen zeggen en het staat jou ook vrij om contact op te nemen met hem/haar.

Tot hier mijn pleidooi om dit systeem te promoten

Soyez honnête il ya très peu d'équipes qui commencent un talent potentiel dans leur équipe de faire les choses.
C'est pour ces équipes que nous avons réellement mis en place ce système pour qu'ils puissent obtenir de l'aide et si le projet est là jusqu'à ce que vous commencez à voir s'il ya du talent dans toutes les équipes est
Et chaque nouvelle saison, je vous contacterai afin de savoir quelles équipes (et leurs entraîneurs) dans le programme sont, alors vous pouvez nous dire si il ya un talent dans son équipe afin que nous puissions dire et est également gratuite pour prendre contact avec lui / elle.

Ceci est mon plaidoyer pour promouvoir le système

gtrs en succes in het spel
RTM et la réussite dans le jeu
FoD1

Ik wil eventueel ook wel helpen met nieuwe mensen te helpen, maar de vraag is hoeveel nieuwe mensen de weg zullen vinden naar dit forum :S

As I did promise here the coaches and they're students

Coach acount wereldrang nat. Rang Taal
Angi77 / acidje 37181 501 nl 33918 459
FoDje / sierra117 42988 622 nl 36524 495
Mod_Revo / guyoo 29065 367 nl 26186 352
Kwiyibo88 / ToiletFool 34741 461 nl 26291 354
nimportecky / Roelie 37072 503 nl 36050 485
Huvor / BS 34440 452 nl 33937 460
Ximee / Chenzi 57033 751 fr 52924 709
Ventola7 / fr


PS
@U21Scouts you may contact sierra117 I have seen that he has a PF draftee with a wage over 4k I don't know the skills but I did ask them :)
@ Coaches maybe you can check your trainees if they have good drafts and tell them they have a choice for training an U21 player

Gtrs FoD1

eens oude koeien uit de gracht halen... XP is dit programma van coaches en studenten nog actief, want het is lang geleden dat ik nog iets hiervan gehoord heb... bijna vergeten dat dit nog bestond

zijn er nieuwe managers die hulp kunnen gebruiken?!!!!???