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From: Deano25
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Date: 1/1/2021 7:57:10 AM
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I really want to encourage any managers who feel they have a player who could make the National Team in the future to do a cut and paste of his skills and BB Mail them through to me so I can stay on top of how he is developing and potentially help you with a training plan to give him the best chance of making the team.
We have a really nice squad coming together at the moment but there is certainly depth behind it. I think the key for us to continue to improve as a nation is to make sure we are capitalising on that potential for the seasons ahead.

And, just to hammer home the point - game shape. It's very hard to consistently pick a player if they are playing 90+ minutes every week.

From: Deano25
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Date: 1/5/2021 5:44:24 AM
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We find ourselves in the Consolation Cup and with an interesting draw.
The first goal is to overcome the 0-2 start we get from coming in from the Repechage and to try and push for a spot in the knockout bracket.
We've got some good kids knocking on the door, with a new guard cracking in for his first game last weekend.

We finished the Repechage 2-1 to finish second in our pool with a solid 132-84 win over Egypt.
It was a very even, solid team performance which made giving the votes tough, so there's a few guys who were stiff.

3: Matuszkiewicz (17 points, 4 assists, 2 boards and a steal and a points diff of +35 in his debut game - very solid)
2: Helo (21 points, 4 assists, 2 boards and a steal and a points diff of +13)
1: McFlynn (15 points, 11 boards, 2 assists and a points diff of +36)

In the end I used the player ratings to separate these three.

We have a game against Guatamala Monday night at 8pm Australian time. We've had some game shape issues in recent weeks - here's hoping our managers can get a good run with their player minutes this week so we can start this Consolation Cup strongly.

From: Deano25
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Date: 1/5/2021 7:06:02 AM
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Quick update to our last game, two of our current players moved onto a all time top-10 list off the back of that game, with Homer Dawes now sitting 10th in rebounds all time for Australia and Du Hongjing 9th in assists. They hoping Australian captain Dwayne McFlynn, who is on the all time games top-10 list with 115 and sits third on all time rebounding.

From: Deano25
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Date: 1/5/2021 7:19:29 AM
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On a side note, I’m chipping away on a side project to collate a comprehensive data base of all time Aussie National Team player stats that should allow us to compare shooting percentages, how often guys fouled, who was the best 3 point shooter... if the data is in the game I’m trying to get into into a spreadsheet. There’s a bit of back tracking to do but I hope by the end of summer I’ll have something in place that can be easily updated each season to allow us to rank every single player who’s ever stepped on the court for Australia’s National side, not just the top 10s. I’m over half way, about 20 seasons to go.

I’m wondering whether this might lead to an Aussie National Hall of Fame where we induct no more than two players per season for services to the National Team. We could kick start it with a larger batch of initial inductees to catch up on the almost 50 seasons of players so far.

What do you guys think would make eligibility requirements? Min 50 games perhaps? Retired from National side at least 1 full season before can be nominated? Feel free to chuck in some ideas.

Last edited by Deano25 at 1/5/2021 1:25:03 PM

From: Brooksy

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Date: 1/5/2021 7:43:35 AM
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Jackson mansfield, bogan,hargreaves

From: Deano25

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Date: 1/5/2021 1:28:23 PM
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I think Mansfield for certain is a no brainer, his record for assists isn’t likely to ever get broken and he had such longevity - that’s a LOT of games. The other two are certainly popping up in the data I’m crunching, too. What do think about the criteria?

From: Brooksy

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Date: 1/5/2021 6:45:33 PM
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Im just thinking of early season guys that where mainstays amd contribitued so well i can think of a few others i think scoggins and rudolph radford for bigs should be there aswell

From: Brooksy

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Date: 1/5/2021 6:49:48 PM
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I think a few players from our teams during our golden period abould be in there aswell as they were apart of our strongest finishing teams when user bade was also at it heighest making it more impressive

From: Deano25

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Date: 1/5/2021 7:12:01 PM
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Yeah, Radford is another no brainer, definitely.
But at this stage what I’m thinking is if we can as a community suggest some guidelines for selection it might be something we can implement from the start of next season maybe?

I just think there’s some potential here to spark some discussion about the National program, generate some interest and hopefully buy in from more managers, which helps our program overall.

Great suggestions from you, cheers mate.

From: Brooksy

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Date: 1/6/2021 5:40:38 AM
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Maybe a min game played as a start mmayve in the min 5or6 seasons on team i dont know what a good number would be i know alot of us managers who have been around awhile or played the game on and off like myself would also havent certain players that we still remember from teams. Maybe stats aswell but i dont know how youd work it we have some great hybrid sf ect that never padded stats but were great players

From: Deano25

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Date: 1/6/2021 7:22:41 AM
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The game offered up some new stat lines from around season 12 or 13 from memory, but I'm collating everything from each game, including ratings, points diff while on court, fouls, minutes played, shooting percentages etc... I do think there are some guys on our top-10 lists that looking at their sheer volume look amazing, but from what I've seen when you break it down a little they seem to have had some very good runs in the side, so I think to be fair it'd be good to get some discussion around any inductees. In most seasons players who play each game should get 13 or 14 games. A good run in the side in modern days is around 4 seasons (it seemed in the first 15 seasons or so some guys played much longer). So I'd suggest 50 games as a minimum is a starting point for the discussion and then various managers can have their say on it once they are nominated.

Who did you manage before the Cellar Dwellars?



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