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From: yodabig

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Date: 4/25/2011 7:10:17 PM
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Awesome pickup. Funny that. One of probably our top three guys. Great work added.

One of the things I was going to say was if anyone at all knows of any decent Indian player at all please let me know and I'll add them to our database. Here are the current players I have added. I have the full stats for all of these players correct until this friday.

Hashmat Gnanam 24966 21 6 178 pg
Stephen Frankot 23892 21 8 188 sf
Aanandakumar Ghosh 23317 21 11 190 sg
Aloki Peppin  22468 21 5 196 sf
Hashmat Firosh 22138 21 9 188 sg
Dharmakeerti Kumar 18633 21 9 185 sg
Diganta Subramanyam 18210 21 8 188 pg
Velmurugan Dey  14597 21 7 201 c
Sarfaraz Ishtaq 12878 21 8 198 pf
Vidvan Balu 11536 21 9 213 c
Vihar Pradeep Chand 10770 21 9 188 sg
Agnikumara Meeti 9964 21 5 196 sg
Shipirist Rath 8376 19 7 196 pg
Aanand Rai  8363 19 6 183 sg
Farooq Ishtaq 8282 20 7 218 c
Talavali Chinnakali  7772 21 9 183 pg
Candansu Manchanda 7541 21 5 206 pf
Robbie Bonds 7359 20 7 198 sf
Ishayu Sinclair  7191 21 8 203 pf
Maheya Kanwar 7136 19 6 198 pg
Dhruva Bhushan 7107 20 5 198 sf
Mahendravarman Singh 6611 18 8 190 sg
Bhimasankara Victor Jaya 6582 20 8 208 c
Dhritiman Vikesh 6414 19 6 198 pf
Dhamodraraj Bhushan 6183 19 5 206 pf
Aiman Taneja 6119 19 6 201 sg
Chitrarath Kaicker 5822 18 6 188 sg
Shattesh Bhushan 5642 20 5 206 pf
Udari Morje 5497 19 6 201 sf
Abdul-Rahman Raju 5078 18 4 190 sg
Vidip Jayashree 4937 19 7 211 c
Aayushmaan Ghosh 4885 18 9 203 sg
Gopi Saidullah  4866 18 7 196 pf
Salauddin Azam 4864 19 7 183 sg
Dipak Krishnan 4853 19 7 208 sf
Shatrughan Dixit 4828 19 9 190 sf
Mahendranath Byahatti 4589 19 9 193 pg
Amaresvara Rajak  4532 18 10 206 pg
Gary Vincent 4397 18 5 201 pf
Vihari Mishra 4255 18 5 190 pf
Dharmakeerti Kapoor 4081 19 11 211 c
Janki-Nathan Singh 4052 18 9 183 sg
Vadin Bisaria 4028 18 7 193 sg
Kevin Davies  3996 18 8 213 c
Dineshguru Dwivedi  3971 18 8 193 sf
Amrish Mohan 3855 18 8 193 sg
Chitrada Porsezhian  3774 18 6 185 sg
Sivathaiyan Chadha 3771 18 7 208 sf
Agnibhatta Dalal 3749 18 6 211 c
Amarottama Nigam 3369 19 6 216 c
Amaran Bhadauria 3290 19 8 196 pf
Chelvanathan Adhikari 3162 19 9 208 pf
Tanuj Kumar Das 3112 20 9 190 sg
Swarnamariyappan Ansari  2785 19 8 185 pg


Last edited by yodabig at 4/25/2011 7:24:13 PM

From: yodabig

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Date: 4/25/2011 7:27:21 PM
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Best Players by Position With BC Rating for Position

Best PG
Hashmat Gnanam 24966 21 pg 9.725
Diganta Subramanyam 18210 21 pg 8.625
Hashmat Firosh 22138 21 sg 8.5
Dharmakeerti Kumar 18633 21 sg 7.7
Aloki Peppin  22468 21 sf 7.575

Best SG
Hashmat Gnanam 24966 21 pg 9.375
Hashmat Firosh 22138 21 sg 9.275
Aloki Peppin  22468 21 sf 8.525
Aanandakumar Ghosh 23317 21 sg 8.4
Dharmakeerti Kumar 18633 21 sg 8.25

Best SF
Hashmat Gnanam 24966 21 PG 9.075
Hashmat Firosh 22138 21 SG 9.0
Aloki Peppin  22468 21 SF 8.225
Dharmakeerti Kumar 18633 21 SG 7.95
Aanandakumar Ghosh 23317 21 SG 7.8

Best PF
Hashmat Firosh 22138 21 sg 7.525
Hashmat Gnanam 24966 21 pg 7.5
Sarfaraz Ishtaq 12878 21 pf 6.85
Aloki Peppin  22468 21 sf 6.675
Dhritiman Vikesh 6414 19 pf 6.525
Dharmakeerti Kumar 18633 21 sg 6.475
Farooq Ishtaq 8282 20 c 6.45
Velmurugan Dey  14597 21 c 6.325


How horrible that our big guys are so bad that our best PF is a SG and our second best PF is a PG.

Best C
Sarfaraz Ishtaq 12878 21 pf 7.2
Hashmat Firosh 22138 21 sg 7.15
Hashmat Gnanam 24966 21 pg 6.95
Velmurugan Dey  14597 21 c 6.675
Farooq Ishtaq 8282 20 c 6.575
Vidvan Balu 11536 21 c 6.55


Last edited by yodabig at 4/25/2011 7:46:05 PM

From: Johnson

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Date: 4/25/2011 7:41:12 PM
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if anyone at all knows of any decent Indian player at all please let me know

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From: yodabig

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Date: 4/25/2011 7:51:26 PM
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Thanks again and added him to the database. Great defender and considering his age he looks a certainty to make the team at some stage.

From: yodabig

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Date: 4/25/2011 10:31:36 PM
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So at the moment my inclination would be something like.

PG Hashmat Gnanam
SG Aanandakumar Ghosh
SF Hashmat Firosh
PF Sarfaraz Ishtaq
C Velmurugan Dey
Bench
PG/SG/SF Aloki Peppin
PG/SG Dharmakeerti Kumar
PG/SG/SF Mahendravarman Singh
C/PF Farooq Ishtaq
C/PF Dhritiman Vikesh

Now that is 10 players and I really only want as few as possible so we can save as many guys as we can. I would love to cut that number to 7 but that gives us at least a starting point. I guess something I need to work out next is who is going bot this week and what players they have worth saving.

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Date: 4/26/2011 4:08:02 AM
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Great job...awesome working. I'm so glad that U21 NT got you as their manager. All The Best

From: Johnson

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Date: 4/26/2011 6:45:59 AM
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I've never played it myself, but would a 1-3-1 zone be a viable option with so many guards and a lack of big men?

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Date: 4/26/2011 7:11:24 AM
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I'd think that using 1-3-1 zone is suicidal, especially for our team. 1-3-1 zone is a super perimeter defense and unless you have a super monster big-man, the opponents will just get too many offensive rebounds and go for easy lay-ups. Since we don't have strong big-men, I don't think there'll be a case where we'll use 1-3-1 zone.
Even with man to man, out perimeter defense is likely to be far better than our inside, and I guess the only case where we might use 3-2 zone is if the opponents had a very strong outside shooting and very low rebounding.

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Date: 4/26/2011 7:14:45 AM
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Great work!!
And I agree with this lineup. But one question, is SG Aanandakumar Ghosh overall little more balanced than PG/SG Dharmakeerti Kumar ?

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Date: 4/26/2011 9:58:51 AM
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Yes with the weakness of our big men I fear we will be forced to use man to man and the much loathed 2/3 zone and little else. Maybe a 3-2 if we come up against a team with similar issues to us.

Ghosh vs Kumar.
Kumar is an excellent player and in a fair appraisal is one of our top 6-8 players. But Ghosh is a much better scorer and beats him in JS, JR and IS so it really isn't close.

Gnanam is our best player by far and is best suited to PG so that one is clear.
Firosh is our best defender by far and a solid SF although in man to man sometimes we may play him at SG in defence to take the opponents best scorer.
At SG you really want the best scorer possible and Ghosh just is much better at that than Kumar.

Where Kumar could come in would be off the bench ahead of Peppin but once again that may depend on what we need for the specific game.

These debates are excellent. I have asked Niko about the private offsite forums so I can just display the players skills so we can debate them easily and freely.

Last edited by yodabig at 4/26/2011 10:03:06 AM

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Date: 4/26/2011 10:07:46 AM
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All clearly understood sir :) I think our guards are one of the best ones we've ever had...if we had our big-men who are now 23/24, our team will be really good...but life isn't that easy.

The private offsite forums would be a great idea. We can understand the team much better that way. Hope that'll come soon :)

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