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217176.3 in reply to 217176.2
Date: 05/15/2012 14:37:08
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Well, I' m not voting here but I can say that your candidacy Steve, is undoubtedly the best solution for Cyprus.

Good luck! :D


Thank you man, I hope to have this chance

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Date: 05/15/2012 15:14:04
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1. What type of team whould you like to create? range attacked players, near-ring players?

2. What skills must have to be in C and PF if you play range tactics? What skills must have to be in SG and PG if you play near-ring tactics?

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Date: 05/15/2012 17:47:57
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Considering that after Steve i was the NT manager for 4 seasons, and during that time using his work we where doing decently but since i left, nothing, the 1st priority is not to create a certain type of players, but maximize the abilities of the poor talent pool that we have as a country. We are very small community, with very few active/good managers, so the main goal is bring the community back to life...

The ideal candidate for that is certainly Steve. He did it once, he can do it again. I am coming back to active again after 4 seasons that i was like a farm, just for him...

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217176.6 in reply to 217176.2
Date: 05/15/2012 18:17:01
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Well, I' m not voting here but I can say that your candidacy Steve, is undoubtedly the best solution for Cyprus.

Good luck! :D


No I think

I want help my country and the good solution is : a national candidat !

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217176.7 in reply to 217176.4
Date: 05/15/2012 19:53:39
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1. What type of team whould you like to create? range attacked players, near-ring players?


I'd like to create a team. There's not tactic without players, here we have so poor numbers of players, we need to create a platform of players, then we can think about tactics. If you know the actual situation of 21 years old of Cyprus you can see by yourself.

2. What skills must have to be in C and PF if you play range tactics? What skills must have to be in SG and PG if you play near-ring tactics?


The better level that we can have! We are not speaking about high level right now, we don't have an acceptable level, but who remembers the level of some players in the past, well he knows that we'd like to create competitive players for championships.
I've trained 4 seasons Italy's U21 team.. so if you want I can speak about IDEAL skills that a PF or C or what you desire most, should have, but now we have to built an organic tissue below, IMHO.

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217176.8 in reply to 217176.6
Date: 05/15/2012 19:54:43
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No I think

I want help my country and the good solution is : a national candidat !


How will you help your country? I ask, because there's not any speech

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217176.9 in reply to 217176.7
Date: 05/16/2012 07:30:19
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I'd like to create a team. There's not tactic without players, here we have so poor numbers of players, we need to create a platform of players, then we can think about tactics. If you know the actual situation of 21 years old of Cyprus you can see by yourself.

5 players for range games, 5 players for near-ring games, 5 for pointattacked game + 4 for isolation tactics( isolation near-ring and range atack and defens). Its 19 players. Countries draft is to small? + for isolation you dont need big-potential players, 3-5 can do that.

The better level that we can have! We are not speaking about high level right now, we don't have an acceptable level, but who remembers the level of some players in the past, well he knows that we'd like to create competitive players for championships.


Yes, we can see real trainer results only after 4 seasons.
But i realy want to:
speak about IDEAL skills that a PF or C or what you desire most, should have

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217176.10 in reply to 217176.9
Date: 05/16/2012 07:40:42
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5 players for range games, 5 players for near-ring games, 5 for pointattacked game + 4 for isolation tactics( isolation near-ring and range atack and defens). Its 19 players. Countries draft is to small? + for isolation you dont need big-potential players, 3-5 can do that.


May be in a club game yes.. National is quite different, IMHO

But i realy want to:
speak about IDEAL skills that a PF or C or what you desire most, should have


PF:
JS: >7 JR: >5
OD: >4 HA: X
DR: X PA: >3
IS: >15 ID: >14
RB: >14 SB: X
ST: X FT: X

C:
JS: X JR: X
OD: X HA: X
DR: X PA: >4
IS: >15 ID: >15
RB: >15 SB: X
ST: X FT: X

Or something like that

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217176.11 in reply to 217176.10
Date: 05/16/2012 09:00:02
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May be in a club game yes.. National is quite different, IMHO

Did you can play 48+ minutes for 18 players in club? I don`t think so.

PF:
JS: >7 JR: >5
OD: >4 HA: X
DR: X PA: >3
IS: >15 ID: >14
RB: >14 SB: X
ST: X FT: X

C:
JS: X JR: X
OD: X HA: X
DR: X PA: >4
IS: >15 ID: >15
RB: >15 SB: X
ST: X FT: X


Omg, I realy saw that? PF and C without HA and DR? You kidding me?

PF:
JS: >7 JR: >5 for neutral and near-ring, JS 7 JR 8 for range
OD: >3 HA: 8 for neutral and near-ring, OD 5 HA 8 for range
DR: 9 PA: >3 for neutral and near-ring, DR 9 PA 6 for range and low inside
IS: >15 ID: >14 for near-ring and neutral, IS 13 ID 14 for range
RB: >14 SB: X
ST: X FT: X

C:
JS: X JR: X JR 5 for range
OD: X HA: 8 OD 5 for range
DR: 9 PA: >X PA 5 for range and low inside
IS: >14 ID: >14
RB: >14 SB: X
ST: X FT: X


And IMHO for next:
For isolation defense: -3 for attack, but +3 for defense.
For isolation attack: -3 for defence, but +3 for attack.

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217176.12 in reply to 217176.11
Date: 05/16/2012 09:43:52
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Yes, you really saw that. X means that it's not the most important value that I take care.

You need to have players to do play some tactics, we don't have players.. if you checked some 21 years old in Cyprus you can understand that nobody is near to skills like that. You're speaking like how to manage a team, not a national team

Did you can play 48+ minutes for 18 players in club? I don`t think so.


I don't understand, my fault! You said that "for isolation you dont need big-potential players, 3-5 can do that".. what's now 18 players?
Playing ISO with NT is not so good, but you can always try, IMHO having 3 "superstars" don't allow a NT to play ISO to win important games.

Anyway if your intentions is to make me ridiculous (saying "omg" - "you're kidding me"), unfortunately I think you're going in the wrong way. I'm not dumb

Last edited by Steve Makis™ at 05/16/2012 09:44:45

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217176.13 in reply to 217176.11
Date: 05/16/2012 09:57:09
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You dont understand the issue that Cyprus has huh? its not about X and O's, witch Steve is longer on this game than you, he has great resume, from his previous jobs as an NT coach, and world champion. So silly arguments...