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From: GM-hrudey

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Date: 2/19/2016 10:00:06 PM
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Because of the week of training, he dropped in Driving


Fix'd your post.

I think there's a strong case that training after age 33 ends up having a negative effect. Of course, I think Marin has claimed that's not the case, but I do't know for sure and it sure seems consistent with what I've seen.

From: Hoosier

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Date: 2/20/2016 12:24:15 PM
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Whoa, too much training talk in here. I don't do training. I'll check back in a couple days to see if a subject near and dear to my heart comes up...like overpriced players on the TL.

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Date: 2/20/2016 12:36:25 PM
Arizona Cacti
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http://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/60851490.jpg

Sorry, can't post in-thread pictures anymore like all you fancy mofos.

On a related note, did any of you realize the season's about to start? Who knew?

From: Dunkface

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276682.60 in reply to 276682.39
Date: 2/20/2016 1:11:07 PM
Arizona Cacti
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I think it's stupid that if a BB athlete plays more than an hour and 10 minutes in a whole week his game shape suffers.

In real life, if a player couldn't play 36-40 minutes 3 times a week, he'd be laughed off the court.

The enthusiasm factor is pretty silly too when comparing it to real life...I mean, who's going to show up and Take it Easy?


Honestly, I think the Game Shape and Enthusiasm systems are pretty accurate in terms of effect minutes have on players.

Really the only difference between this game and the NBA is the fact that the NBA has 4x the regular season games (and many more playoff games) so for BB to cause those shifts to be noticeable, they have to magnify them over the short term. NBA superstars pretty typically get more rest than they need within a game (i.e the team would be better with them on the floor even given their current stamina level) but coaches watch player's minutes with an eye towards keeping them fresh for the season. Almost no players get more than 36-37 minutes per game, a few stars are under 30 and some older guys (see: Spurs players) are clocking in at barely 25 mins/game in addition to having nights off). Players who are rested see their performance/Game Shape increase or stay at a high level over the course of a long season, whereas players who are overused run out of gas.

As for Enthusiasm, I think it's pretty clear that from time to time teams to CT or TIE. It's not as easy as the coach clicking a button before the game but there are definitely different motivating factors that cause a team to keep their foot on the gas pedal or let up a bit. Big rivalry games or special events, like a players having his number retired or a title winning team receiving their rings from the year before are good examples. To cross-reference to the NFL, look at Super Bowl winning team's records on that first Thursday of the following season. By that same token, how many times have you heard commentators say a team "just didn't look focused" on a given night? Last night's Warriors-Blazers game was a good example of a dominant team TIEing to recoup some energy, and I think you need to look no further than some of the Celtics teams of the Big 3 era to see an older, experienced team who essentially TIE'd all season long and then crushed teams in the playoffs despite raising a lot of questions with regular season games that made it look like they were slipping/underachieving. Additionally, I remember the Baron Davis-Stephen Jackson Warriors of maybe 2006 using the opposite approach and Super-PCTing every game against the dominant Mavs and winning that series by drawing energy to fuel their adrenaline rush from a crazed, raucous fan base before flaming out in 5 games vs. a mediocre Utah squad. (If you made it this far congratulations, I'm impressed).

BB doesn't do everything well, but I think they're spot on with GS/enthusiasm.

Now if they could just continue to transition from 80/90's LI basketball to the modern day Fun 'n Gun/Splash Bros style, my team would be a lot better.... err.... the game would be more fun for everyone! :)

From: Phyr

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Date: 2/20/2016 8:08:57 PM
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wow up 6 points when your thugs hurt castro. multi game injury too

From: A-Dub

To: Phyr
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Date: 2/21/2016 12:27:41 AM
Upsyndrome
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I wasn't in town, so I wasn't able to watch tonight's game. Isom had 33 points....nice.

"You will lose." -Ivan Drago
From: Jason

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Date: 2/21/2016 3:50:31 AM
Arizona Desert Storm
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I pretty much agree with everything you said...and like I said in my post, there probably aren't any better ways of doing it without making things like the Cup pointless.

My overall point I was implying but probably didn't make clear, is that it's frustrating that we play a game like this for enjoyment of playing the game...but to play the game and not get penalized, you have intentionally not play the game on some game days...and/or not play the players on your team that make the game fun to play, too much, or they take a hit.

From: Jason

To: Phyr
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Date: 2/21/2016 3:51:56 AM
Arizona Desert Storm
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your thugs hurt castro. multi game injury too


Welcome to the NBBA!

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Date: 2/21/2016 7:23:19 AM
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man, what happened last night to the Horde and the Chargers, it just ain't right.

the story is told that when Scipio Africanus defeated Rome's ancient enemy Carthage -- and he is watching his army loot and eventually burn the city to the ground -- there are tears in his eyes. This makes no sense because he is the victorious general who has defeated the greatest enemy Rome had, and should be celebrating. But he is tearful because he realizes that what is happening to Carthage will one day happen to Rome.

i suppose that's what i think when i see two great teams each losing by more than a 100 points.

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Date: 2/21/2016 4:10:56 PM
Upsyndrome
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Good analogy; however, in our case -- we tear down, to rise again.

"You will lose." -Ivan Drago
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Date: 2/21/2016 8:43:49 PM
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"King Biddle"

Seriously?

that name alone is worth $2.5 million.

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