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197824.6 in reply to 197824.4
Date: 10/5/2011 4:01:12 PM
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I share your idea. Additionally, with the introduction of cross-training this season, forcing one type of training for too long with a plan to create "enormous" elastic effect on related skills for future training can turn out to be a very bad plan. Not only that you are facing the negative elastic effect with the skills distancing too far from the related (you explained that), now this distancing means 1) more than 10% subtraction from the speed of the primary training for the purpose of cross-training (slower training) and 2) more then 10% training to unrelated skills for a training type (more than 10% random in a training plan).

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197824.7 in reply to 197824.5
Date: 10/10/2011 10:10:56 PM
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I figure the purpose of the elastic effect was to have well-rounded players, and so I try to keep skills relatively close together. I trust the BBs in developing a system that encourages well-rounded players since I don't feel I'm even close to figuring out the particulars. But I do try to include what little I know when considering what players to pick from the TL.

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197824.8 in reply to 197824.7
Date: 10/11/2011 1:40:19 AM
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Well rounded playes are surely most effective salary-wise. But elastic effect doesn't only help players to become well-rounded, it also helps to maintain training speed. For example, I'm training JR for more than half a season now and my trainee popped every two weeks regularly. But now his JR level came just one level under JS, HA and DR. I should train 1 on 1 for two weeks now before proceeding with JR, but I didn't. What happened was my trainee didn't pop in JR for third straight week. If I would take into account elastic effect, JR wouldn't slow down.

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197824.9 in reply to 197824.8
Date: 10/11/2011 1:55:04 AM
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i think he hoped, that the elastic effect works in is favour when he keep skills close together, instead of training against the elastic effect and to profit aftrwards from it. I also hope that it is that way, even when i also could imagine that driving/handling, maybe training first could help the general training speed.

Which is optional i don't know.

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197824.10 in reply to 197824.9
Date: 10/11/2011 2:48:56 AM
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I see that. If you keep the skills together, you don't have negative elastic effect, but you also don't profit from any skill that is higher (I know that in order to get to that higher skill, you have to take into account negative EE).

driving/handling, maybe training first could help the general training speed.


That's exactly what I'm promoting (for guards and forwards, not for centers): 1 on 1 for forwards is the way to generate elastic effect.

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197824.12 in reply to 197824.10
Date: 10/11/2011 4:24:09 AM
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but when the malus raise higher then the profit, you loose throug inbalanced training which would make it better to keep all on a similiar level. Which make you profit from elastic effect, cause you suing it best in this scenario.

I don't know what is best, personally i tend to driving first and then train the rest balanced but the difference is at least not that big to a more conservativ training regime.

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197824.13 in reply to 197824.12
Date: 10/11/2011 4:40:44 AM
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Well, the difference can be two-three "free" weeks/season, which is not bad. If you do the training properly, you will never experience 3 weeks for JR or OD, effectively netting you those "free" weeks compared to competition.

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197824.15 in reply to 197824.13
Date: 10/11/2011 5:00:02 AM
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i really doubt it isbig like that, else the discussion about wouldn't start in season 13-14 first with examples.

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197824.16 in reply to 197824.14
Date: 10/11/2011 5:01:11 AM
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I'm not sure if I'm following you. I assumed 90%-10% for cross-training is always a constant.

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