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291377.7 in reply to 291377.6
Date: 1/3/2018 10:00:01 PM
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LOL! Morwood who? I'm the only one in the family who has made Div. 1 in Canada. His excuse is that he focuses more on NT/U21 stuff... so I figure I try to become the coach of a country somewhere, if Canada won't have me, and try to out-do him so that he won't get to use that excuse anymore!


Chicks rule!! (at least in this household)

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291377.8 in reply to 291377.7
Date: 1/3/2018 10:04:18 PM
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I also wanted to add.. I have a ton of respect for Mod Beanerz and he is a legend in Canada. But he has had his chances and done a fantastic job. I'm just asking that this time you give me the chance. Canada lacks much of a community, and if given the chance, I would just become another valued member with the experience that I would gain. I realize that is a tough sell, but we all need a chance, I could look to another small country but this is where I want my chance to be. So I hope I will get some consideration.

Thanks!

From: Music_Chick

To: RiP
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291377.10 in reply to 291377.9
Date: 1/4/2018 4:49:52 PM
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Guilty as charged RIP!. As I mentioned in my speech (atleast I think I did) the kid is older than he's been. and therefore there is a bit more time to do things. This would be another kick in the pants to motivate me to get going. It would be a new challenge and that motivates me to 'get'er done!'.

You asked what I offer that Beanerz does not? Well, probably not much. As I've said, he's a legend, he's been so good for the community. I just want a chance. The enthusiasm will be there. I'm more than willing to be an assistant and learn from Beanerz if I lose, but I feel that I'd learn even more if I was the coach, as the pressures of being coach are different. I know this isn't the answer you are looking for, but there isn't anything bad I can say against Beanerz. He doesn't piss people off, he works hard and he's had good results. It's too bad, I thought I finally had the chance to run and he decided one day to run again :) my lucky day!

From: Music_Chick

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291377.12 in reply to 291377.11
Date: 1/4/2018 4:57:37 PM
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HAHA! I'll work on that :)

From: Coach MK

To: RiP
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291377.13 in reply to 291377.9
Date: 1/4/2018 5:19:27 PM
Stavanger Titans
III.12
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Second Team:
The Vikings
At the end, all goid managers do the same and communicate. This is at least what i think and i am pretty sure both of my opponents do. To be honest, i am not the high-profile expert of the Canadian National Tem (*What a surprise*) So i can't talk really about beanerz success and that he is a legend i know from other users.

So what speaks for me as team manager over him or Music chick. I have more experience than the chick. And beanerz took a long break. Since that, the engine has change and the game is definitly more complex. So in terms of that, i also havea bit more experience with the engine. But i am definitly still a million miles away from understanding everything, e.g. why we lost so clear against Indonesia.

I work really hard and had a lot if good communications with a lot of manager (national and international) and i am eager to continue the hard work and i want to be successful as possible. And last but not least, i have retrieve something. I can definitly do better than this.

The first stage should bring position 2 in the group. Argentina is in striking distance, Brasil beat my team twice and the rest are atleast winnable games. So you see, i am prepared.

Hell Ya - We are coming from the North to conquer your arena ...
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291377.14 in reply to 291377.12
Date: 1/4/2018 8:04:05 PM
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Naismith
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I do give it to debussy on keeping me on my toes.
I give her credit for beating me in the league finals in which I was slated to win to get to Naismith.
and I can attest to her being more active lately. As RiP mentioned, before I would fear she sends a blank lineup to scrimmage or fail to accept my scrimmage requests, but lately she appears to me much more on the ball.

And I must say, unlike other managers lately, who have made it to Naismith and just gets bored with the game and quits. She has shown the opposite, which is to find more challenges in the game, which is inspiring.

Not to seem one sided in this debate. Points also goes out to MK for his persistence on running this Canadian team. He has ran and lost before, but kept coming back. So points to you for not giving up.

And beanerz... not much needs to be said for beanerz. The name itself gets points.

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291377.15 in reply to 291377.13
Date: 1/4/2018 8:05:14 PM
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My questions were of course directed at everyone.

When it comes to depth chart this is what I meant:
we have (had?- I am sure I could pull up a link somewhere) off-site forum where when I was NT manager, and couple of others before me we were doing depth chart of all Canadian players with slightest shot at NT. 18-32. Of course the higher we go with age, the smaller the shortlist go but it was very extensive.

Also, another project of mine that I tried to get going, and had some success before real life got in the way was creating training groups. Players from depth chart, let's say 26-27 and younger were split into manageable 5-10 player groups and then managers could sign up to 'supervise' them. Their job was to stay in contact with the owners directly, getting updates, advising on training, etc.

Also reward for getting highest amount of pops (or efficient training since some skills are faster than others) was participation of the player in NT scrimmage.

Again, it was just a pilot and never grew for longer than 3 seasons due to lack of time but I wonder if ideas such as this one will be resurrected and put in place.

If so then I would be up for helping out.

For a while was considering throwing a hat in the ring myself but I have 2 weeks at a time each month that I won't be reliable so it's not possible - it takes way more activity than that to make it into Worlds

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291377.16 in reply to 291377.15
Date: 1/5/2018 6:49:51 AM
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I would love to use an external forum to have more discussions and also to store the skill set, that not every manager has to start form scratch again. We have the same in Germany with folders for the age 18, 19, 20, 21, and 22+ and with subfolders for every position. I liked that a lot and could give a good start for the community.

The split in different "manageable groups" I see critical. With decreasing numbers of managers in BB overall, I don“t see the potential to recruit enough people. What I would suggest is, to have 1-3 scouts for every age class named above and position, for the 22+ maybe more. But the training in 22+ will go slower, so it is still possible to run it with 1-3 person per position. From my point of view this would work better with less people.

For the rewards, I started the Folder "Project Team Canada" where I listed the players with the amount of pops over the last season. I already have finished the seasons end list, I have just to put it in good format (which takes a while unfortunately). I hope to finish an update over the weekend. But a database like Music_Chick has proposed was also in my minds, but I am not the IT-man to do this on my own.

So, what do you, or the others think about that ?

Hell Ya - We are coming from the North to conquer your arena ...
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291377.17 in reply to 291377.16
Date: 1/5/2018 2:40:54 PM
Pszczyna Team
II.1
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I think you would be surprised just how many managers will be willing to help, especially since it takes only 30min or so bi-weekly. Plus we have a decent groups of veterans.

By my estimation, easily 10-20 managers would help out, that gives 100-200 trainees constantly followed.
I don't mind the idea of scouts. I do believe they need to have list of players assigned to them though. Users are rarely first to contact NT scouts, especially among newer users

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