Well I actually I see winning something as either the Naismith league championship or the Canada Cup and BB-Mark is the only who has not won a gold trophy other than a div II trophy. Also speaking of the Canadian Hall of Fame too me a bigger factor than success would be the managers influence on the game and assistance in the Canada community.
I have to yet to make it up at a point in BB where teams that started earlier have a big advantage. If I make it to Naismith by my 10th season I will be satisified, but then again I do not see being a division II team as being a newbish manager. I have seen many managers spend seasons in div III without being able to get even to division II
(25075). Division II is still a big deal in my eyes, but obviously I would love to be in Naismith ;). Too me the indicator of a newbish manager or not would be that managers knowledge and understanding of the game. I feel like I have a good understanding of this game, but I understand I still have alot to learn. I do not consider myself newbish, but everyone is entitled to their opinion. I am done with this silly argument with you. I don't post on these forums to make enemies or have stupid arguments.
Sure you can call me the little girl excited to meet Justin Bieber. To be honest if I was about to meet Justin Bieber I would be a little excited ;) and if you do not want to post actively thats great. Who am I to tell you otherwise, but do not put managers down when they state their harmless opinions on these forums, no matter what league there in.
Well there im done, if you want to continue this argument, BBmail me. This thread is not the place for it.