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237849.85 in reply to 237849.82
Date: 4/28/2013 5:50:31 PM
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You can choose to believe whatever you want but GS, home court, effort and tacics all play a role in the ratings.

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237849.86 in reply to 237849.85
Date: 4/28/2013 5:54:18 PM
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In order I'd say the issues for the poor ratings were 2/3 zone, bad gameshape, enthusiasm and playing on the road.

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237849.87 in reply to 237849.85
Date: 4/28/2013 7:42:03 PM
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That's great to say, but neither you nor kumiko have provided any evidence or reasoning behind your statement. If there is, I'd love to hear it and be happy to change my mind.
Otherwise we're all basing it on our own judgements, except you're claiming yours as fact.

Edit: I used to follow forums quite a bit before, and vaguely remember a BB talking about team ratings. Anyone with supporter want to do me a favour and search it?

Last edited by Fresh24 at 4/28/2013 7:46:53 PM

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237849.88 in reply to 237849.87
Date: 4/28/2013 8:52:58 PM
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Just play the same lineup with the same effort in a week where you have a road and a home game and you'll find that you'll have better defense ratings in the home game. Fact.

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237849.90 in reply to 237849.89
Date: 4/28/2013 9:53:50 PM
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Naismith
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People with access to PL have a better chance of proving me wrong (although I understand still very difficult), but the examples you use are pretty poor, since none attempt to isolate home/away or effort level used. The third one isolates tactics, nobody is disputing those aren't included, and the other two seem to be about gameshape, also not being disputed.

And playing the same lineup twice in a week may not see the same results, because I'd think differences in minutes played from your players would yield different team ratings.

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237849.91 in reply to 237849.90
Date: 4/28/2013 10:18:17 PM
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Fine, play the same 5 guys for all 48 in both games then (inb4 "what if someone fouls out")...you must be trolling, and I've been caught. Hook, line, and sinker.

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237849.93 in reply to 237849.91
Date: 4/28/2013 11:38:08 PM
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I'm simply asking for someone to provide some evidence in order for me to change my opinion. I actually would like to see the results of the experiment you propose (if someone fouls out early, then it'd probably have to be run again, but the likelihood of that is really slim). However, I don't care enough to mess up trainings/gameshape for it myself though, because knowing this info isn't more important for me atm. I was just answering a question serenity now! had based on what I thought.

Or if someone could find a BB talk about this, which I may be wrong but I believe BB-Forest did 1-2 years ago (do searches go that far back?), that would solve it.

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237849.94 in reply to 237849.84
Date: 4/29/2013 12:56:36 AM
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I know how to manage game shape. I just don't always get to set my lineup. As to the rest, you're assuming I care about keeping up with the other teams. I expected to relegate this season and my *plan* was to do some experimenting while making sure I got in my training minutes, but that fell by the wayside due to stuff nobody here would care to hear about.

The reason I asked this question, is because I have played worse lineups on the road with equally poor gameshape and not gotten an "average" rating. I wondered if there was anything else to it, but it appears not.

I don't see how the math works here, but it's math nonetheless, so there is something else to it that I can't see.

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237849.95 in reply to 237849.94
Date: 4/29/2013 7:52:36 AM
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I don't see how the math works here, but it's math nonetheless, so there is something else to it that I can't see.

Clearly I'm not seeing something to it as well since so many are so adamant I'm missing things that are a part of it.

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