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Vote B

B

@all current and especially potential future HGL managers, read through carefully:

I established posts for HGL-PL (HGL-Promotion/Participation League), here:
(331392.19),
(331392.20), and
(331392.21).

I also sent BBMails to all currently HGL eligible (or nearly eligible; San Fernando VR) teams on this post that I now replied into (which is teams interested in HGL participation-post).

In other words, contacted teams were:
BC Homegrown
San Antonio Gladiators
Svätý Jur Snakers
Tassie Devils
San Fernando VR.

I gave them 10 days to respond whether they want to participate to HGL-PL, and like everybody can see, that's the first and foremost way of being selected to the HGL should new places open for one reason or another.



The BBMail I sent will be copied below, so that basically everyone (also all non-HGL managers, that have not yet informed of their interest towards HGL) will see it, and can react to it, should they be interested in possibly being able to join HGL on Season 6 and/or 7 (mostly for Season 6 at least, only if there would be surprising withdrawals or penalties that will cause current teams to become ineligible for S6).

***EDIT: Also sent post about this to Homegrown Teams II-thread, so that as many HG teams would see it as possible.***


Here's the BBMail I wrote to all interested managers, and everyone new to HGL whose team will be 100% HG (Home-Grown) during the whole duration of HGL-PL can also join HGL-PL, if they fulfill as well all the other requirements mentioned in above 3 links:

Hi,
I'm HGL (Home-Grown League) Commissioner.
I now contacted all eligible teams who've shown interest in participating to HGL in future.

All current 18 HGL teams have confirmed they want to participate on HGL Season 6 (it'll take place on BB season 73).
Therefore maximum limit of teams will very likely remain at 18 teams on HGL Season 6, so likely no direct/open route to Season 6 will be available through HGL-Promotion/Participation League success unless some manager(s) withdraw from HGL.

We'll anyway play round robin-type of league/playoffs/combination of both (TBD) between non-HGL teams.
If someone withdraws from HGL, places in HGL for next Season(s?) would be offered to teams based on their success in recent HGL-PL (and results might be used for possible Season 7 offers too).

Please let me know in 10 days if you want to participate to HGL-PL; please only participate if you'd be willing to participate to actual HGL Season 6 and/or 7.

More info:(331392.19)&2 following posts.

Last edited by Wagner at 6/9/2026 7:23:23 PM

Vote A.

@Spela (Hårdboll),
@M a k e (Alanurmon Rikkaat), and
@Chucarro (Club Trouville):

Please vote in current HGL voting as soon as possible. It is an important matter/decision, and we need your votes. All the other currrent HGL managers have already voted.

Like mentioned, this is an important decision (should such change take place or not), and I think it would be very important to receive a vote from all current HGL managers.

Therefore I already reserve the right to lengthen the voting deadline slightly, in the case all votes would have not been cast by June 14th, 11.59PM a.k.a. 23.59 EET DST.

Having said that, I'd only reluctantly do that, so HB, ALA, and TRO, please cast your vote very soon, thank you. You may do so by responding to this post.

A

Wagner wrote:

@Spela (Hårdboll),
@M a k e (Alanurmon Rikkaat), and
@Chucarro (Club Trouville):

Please vote in current HGL voting as soon as possible. It is an important matter/decision, and we need your votes. All the other currrent HGL managers have already voted.

Like mentioned, this is an important decision (should such change take place or not), and I think it would be very important to receive a vote from all current HGL managers.

Therefore I already reserve the right to lengthen the voting deadline slightly, in the case all votes would have not been cast by June 14th, 11.59PM a.k.a. 23.59 EET DST.

Having said that, I'd only reluctantly do that, so HB, ALA, and TRO, please cast your vote very soon, thank you. You may do so by responding to this post.

@all current HGL managers:

To quote myself above, as mentioned, because not all current HGL managers have yet voted and because voting result is still totally undecided, it will be necessary to lengthen the voting window a bit, as we are still missing two votes (from Hårdboll and Club Trouville).


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Spela and Chucarro, please cast your vote (Vote A or Vote B) as soon as possible by responding to either this post, or by responding to this original post (here: (331392.86)).
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Current voting result after 16 votes:

Vote A: 8 votes
Vote A= no change to current system; no teams will be kicked/dropped out of HGL due to bad success on that HGL Season.

Teams that voted A:
ED
HGK
LMS
FRE
VDT
EOS
WAG
ALA



Vote B: 8 votes
Vote B= 1 worst HGL team per each HGL Season will in general* be kicked out of HGL, if they lose match against best "currently non-HGL" team (of that Season).

Teams that voted B:
VPO
BCR
KKS
MAD
RAJ
LGM
WMO
VIV

*= unless of course if it would be the case, that 1 or more current HGL teams would be withdrawing in a short notice, and especially if in that scenario also no other new teams (than the team that won worst HGL team in a single HGL-RPF match) would apply&/qualify to HGL that Season, then in that case even that current HGL team that would lose HGL-RPF (HGL Relegation/Promotion Final), could be offered a place in HGL for the next Season.
However, this is somewhat unlikely scenario, so please vote based on the basic idea/rule in mind, that if you vote "Vote B" it means that in practice one worst HGL team is being relegated per Season, should they lose that HGL-RPF match.

Last edited by Wagner at 6/15/2026 7:58:58 AM

Roster Changes

I recently retired 2 players:

Gary Nutley - $5985 salary
Howie Forrest - $3145 salary

Total Salary - $9130

Edited the Transfers-post of Season 5, with the assumptions that dates of firing were 14th and 15th of June, respectively.

Voting is still under way - HB has not logged in since 10th of June, hence my BBMails and these forum messages have not reached him.

As far as Club Trouville's vote goes, we need to evaluate the value of his vote.
What do I mean by this? One manager made a note, that he has transfer listed all his 15 players.
Currently 13 of them have offers been made on them, so that would leave him with 2 players. Technicallly, if no other players are being offered, and he'd receive 3 new players from draft, that'd take him to the minimum HGL participation limit of 5 players in roster. However, as we all know, this is as far from ideal as it can be, and none of his recent actions are in a line with the long term participation commitment.

This is super awkward situation. I have contacted him in couple of occasions now by BBMail to ask about his "automatic commitment" he has given before (meaning "automatic participation confirmation"), that he has not withdrawn to this date.
I also asked about his plans and willingness to participate to HGL Season 6.
I also gave him a tip, that if he wants to salvage the situation, he should probably make bids for his own players, to ensure they will remain in his team when player sales is finished.
No response from him yet - any whatsoever.

He has also changed his user name from Chucarro to Yayo, for whatever reason.

Unfortunately this kind of behavior isn't unheard of in HGL (it's more common than I'd ever wanted to believe), and it still doesn't stop to amaze me, how people just decide to end communication and (likely) exit HGL that way.
What makes it even more baffling, is that TRO is one of the original teams of HGL, starting from Season 1.

Has anyone heard of Chucarro/now Yayo? Does anyone know if he uses Discord?


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If TRO would exit HGL, then we would have at least 1 place on offer for HGL Season 6 through HGL-PL (for non-HGL team).

Currently Tassie Devils have shown their interest to participate to HGL-PL.

As for other teams, I have not received any other messages (to inform me of interest to participate to first HGL-PL) due to my post on HGL or Homegrown teams II-tread, but San Fernando VR initially quite recently mentioned selling/firing their HGL ineligible player wouldn't be a problem, so that he could participate to HGL-PL.

I'm still waiting for his final response/participation confirmation though, which I haven't had despite couple of attempts.

Last edited by Wagner at 6/17/2026 6:22:39 AM

Thx for the work and communication ;)