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@Spela (Hårdboll),
@M a k e (Alanurmon Rikkaat), and
@Chucarro (Club Trouville):

Please vote in current HGL voting as soon as possible. It is an important matter/decision, and we need your votes. All the other currrent HGL managers have already voted.

Like mentioned, this is an important decision (should such change take place or not), and I think it would be very important to receive a vote from all current HGL managers.

Therefore I already reserve the right to lengthen the voting deadline slightly, in the case all votes would have not been cast by June 14th, 11.59PM a.k.a. 23.59 EET DST.

Having said that, I'd only reluctantly do that, so HB, ALA, and TRO, please cast your vote very soon, thank you. You may do so by responding to this post.

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Wagner wrote:

@Spela (Hårdboll),
@M a k e (Alanurmon Rikkaat), and
@Chucarro (Club Trouville):

Please vote in current HGL voting as soon as possible. It is an important matter/decision, and we need your votes. All the other currrent HGL managers have already voted.

Like mentioned, this is an important decision (should such change take place or not), and I think it would be very important to receive a vote from all current HGL managers.

Therefore I already reserve the right to lengthen the voting deadline slightly, in the case all votes would have not been cast by June 14th, 11.59PM a.k.a. 23.59 EET DST.

Having said that, I'd only reluctantly do that, so HB, ALA, and TRO, please cast your vote very soon, thank you. You may do so by responding to this post.

@all current HGL managers:

To quote myself above, as mentioned, because not all current HGL managers have yet voted and because voting result is still totally undecided, it will be necessary to lengthen the voting window a bit, as we are still missing two votes (from Hårdboll and Club Trouville).


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Spela and Chucarro, please cast your vote (Vote A or Vote B) as soon as possible by responding to either this post, or by responding to this original post (here: (331392.86)).
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Current voting result after 16 votes:

Vote A: 8 votes
Vote A= no change to current system; no teams will be kicked/dropped out of HGL due to bad success on that HGL Season.

Teams that voted A:
ED
HGK
LMS
FRE
VDT
EOS
WAG
ALA



Vote B: 8 votes
Vote B= 1 worst HGL team per each HGL Season will in general* be kicked out of HGL, if they lose match against best "currently non-HGL" team (of that Season).

Teams that voted B:
VPO
BCR
KKS
MAD
RAJ
LGM
WMO
VIV

*= unless of course if it would be the case, that 1 or more current HGL teams would be withdrawing in a short notice, and especially if in that scenario also no other new teams (than the team that won worst HGL team in a single HGL-RPF match) would apply&/qualify to HGL that Season, then in that case even that current HGL team that would lose HGL-RPF (HGL Relegation/Promotion Final), could be offered a place in HGL for the next Season.
However, this is somewhat unlikely scenario, so please vote based on the basic idea/rule in mind, that if you vote "Vote B" it means that in practice one worst HGL team is being relegated per Season, should they lose that HGL-RPF match.

Last edited by Wagner at 6/15/2026 7:58:58 AM

Roster Changes

I recently retired 2 players:

Gary Nutley - $5985 salary
Howie Forrest - $3145 salary

Total Salary - $9130

Edited the Transfers-post of Season 5, with the assumptions that dates of firing were 14th and 15th of June, respectively.

Voting is still under way - HB has not logged in since 10th of June, hence my BBMails and these forum messages have not reached him.

As far as Club Trouville's vote goes, we need to evaluate the value of his vote.
What do I mean by this? One manager made a note, that he has transfer listed all his 15 players.
Currently 13 of them have offers been made on them, so that would leave him with 2 players. Technicallly, if no other players are being offered, and he'd receive 3 new players from draft, that'd take him to the minimum HGL participation limit of 5 players in roster. However, as we all know, this is as far from ideal as it can be, and none of his recent actions are in a line with the long term participation commitment.

This is super awkward situation. I have contacted him in couple of occasions now by BBMail to ask about his "automatic commitment" he has given before (meaning "automatic participation confirmation"), that he has not withdrawn to this date.
I also asked about his plans and willingness to participate to HGL Season 6.
I also gave him a tip, that if he wants to salvage the situation, he should probably make bids for his own players, to ensure they will remain in his team when player sales is finished.
No response from him yet - any whatsoever.

He has also changed his user name from Chucarro to Yayo, for whatever reason.

Unfortunately this kind of behavior isn't unheard of in HGL (it's more common than I'd ever wanted to believe), and it still doesn't stop to amaze me, how people just decide to end communication and (likely) exit HGL that way.
What makes it even more baffling, is that TRO is one of the original teams of HGL, starting from Season 1.

Has anyone heard of Chucarro/now Yayo? Does anyone know if he uses Discord?


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If TRO would exit HGL, then we would have at least 1 place on offer for HGL Season 6 through HGL-PL (for non-HGL team).

Currently Tassie Devils have shown their interest to participate to HGL-PL.

As for other teams, I have not received any other messages (to inform me of interest to participate to first HGL-PL) due to my post on HGL or Homegrown teams II-tread, but San Fernando VR initially quite recently mentioned selling/firing their HGL ineligible player wouldn't be a problem, so that he could participate to HGL-PL.

I'm still waiting for his final response/participation confirmation though, which I haven't had despite couple of attempts.

Last edited by Wagner at 6/17/2026 6:22:39 AM

Thx for the work and communication ;)

Thx for the work and communication ;)

Thanks demars - my only hope is that there wasn't too much sarcasm in that comment, as we all know what French (and Finnish) sense of humour is like.. ;) But anyway, I'm trying to keep it running as smoothly as possible, with the resources (time) I have at my hands..

There was no sarcasm, don't be afraid :)


(hum, maybe my last sentence was sarcastic, but... who knows ?)

@all HGL managers, 3 things - number 3. also for managers that are interested in participating to HGL:

1. Possible team dismissal/firing from HGL ahead, if no contact will be able to be made with Club Trouville's (TRO) manager, Chucarro (now Yayo?), and if he isn't willing to make corrective measures in terms of his team roster depth:
He has sold all his players. Yes, you read right, all 15.
See here: https://www.buzzerbeater.com/team/115547/transferhistory.aspx

If he doesn't acquire players from other teams (I don't know if players are on transfer list, that he has previously fired or sold), he will lose all his remaining Season 5 Regular Season matches by 0-50 forfeit.

I have contacted him multiple times, without any success. I have asked about his willingness to participate to Season 6 (now that he sold all his players, I asked if he is willing to purchase back players so that he'd again have HGL eligible roster for Season 6 - still waiting for his reply).

Consequences for running too small roster/dressing too few players to HGL matches can be read for example from here: (331392.12).

2. Update on HGH voting:
Still no further update (voting remains open) as Spela has still not logged in since 10th of June, so we are waiting for his reply. Reminder on voting has been sent to him earlier (also after June 10th).

3. Current situation on HGL-PL:
Currently 2 teams have shown their interest to participate to HGL-PL. Teams' success in HGL-PL would determine the order, in which places in HGL are offered to teams, if (and it seems more and more likely, as) there are dismissals/firings of teams, or voluntary withdrawal of current HGL teams.

Currently Tassie Devils (Australia) and San Fernando VR (Spain) have informed me they want to participate to HGL-PL.
EDIT: Further interested/participating teams are: M.L.S. REICH (Lithuania). (End of an edit).

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Everybody, who are interested in participating to HGL on Season 6 (played fully during next BB season), please let me know as soon as possible, either by replying to this post or sending me BBMail.
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In order to participate to HGL, you first and foremost have to have participated to HGL-PL (free short league and/or playoffs, that is played with using Pickup match(es), and governed and schedule for it provided by HGL).

To begin with, only if there have been more team withdrawals/dismissals in HGL, than there have been participants in most recent HGL-PL, you may be offered a place in HGL - I hope that underlines the importance of HGL-PL in terms of team selection to HGL.

Last edited by Wagner at 6/23/2026 12:40:21 PM