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MrJ wrote:
I know what is occurring with 2 teams is frustrating, but we should also consider the possibility that something unexpected has occurred to one or both of them. If this is the case, some leniency could be shown. With that said, we have finals games coming up and if forfeits occur, then they occur. If they cause someone to miss out on an opportunity to play finals, or cause someone else to play finals as a result of the forfeit...so be it. This is only my opinion. And, without knowing the true reason why we cannot get in touch with these two managers, thinking positively about our fellow managers is the right thing to do.

As for Discord...I tried to login once and then abandoned it. I had only done so to seek some info about BB but decided it wasn't worth it.

I don't know if any of our managers in the HGL use it. We do have some younger managers perhaps that might.

Like I said, I already have my 'patience filter' on. Of course, there can be anything happening in their lives that we are unaware of. Simultaneously however, neglecting HGL tasks is also showing some disrespect towards the league, so personally I don't view that as a positive thing in any way. And at the same time I realize this is "only" a game of basketball.
IRL there would be likely way bigger sanctions for teams failing with important things such as not showing up for Playoff match (should that occur), so while penalties might seem strict, they need to be so strict that this kind of behavior would be strongly discouraged by that.



As for HB, it's "normal" (when compared to TRO, with multiple logins recently) he hasn't done any actions as he hasn't even received messages (hasn't logged in), so personally I'd expect him to being able to fulfill all his obligations so to speak, but we'll see about that - only time will tell.

As for TRO, he has logged in numerous times, and he has been sent numerous BBMails (more than I have informed you guys of), with request and eventually demand of remaining contact with HGL or he runs the risk of being kicked out of the league.
Everybody knows that it's requirement to remain in contact with HGL to some extent, or they run a risk of being thrown out. In the case of TRO, why would I expect him to be in touch anymore, if he hasn't replied to me at all, and have done almost all he can to become HGL ineligible team (apart from buying ineligible players)? I hope he will remain part of HGL on Season 6 as well, but there needs to be some sensible limit how long teams are given time to respond, especially given that he's already been logged in multiple times since initial contact (and multiple contacts after that)...

This is a league that runs manually, and while everybody needs to do some basic work, most of the background tasks, including notifying managers who have not completed tasks, causes me some extra work and need attention continuously to make sure they'be been taken care of.

Last edited by Wagner at 6/21/2026 7:17:16 AM

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On the 4th possibility: This seems quite likely to me. I believe that when you reach a certain amount in debt, and pass the time allowed by BB, all of your players are automatically sold off. This looks like it has occurred. IF this is the case, and feeling devastated by such a situation, the HG is going to be the last thing on his mind. I would not fault him for being absolutely distraught at h

Just a quick note (as I don't have time for long reply right now), that I heard from HGL manager (that fact I didn't verify myself, but I don't have any reason to believe that wouldn't have been the case); this another HGL manager mentioned, that TRO's players were being sold at $1, and not $1000. This, as he underlined, practically should mean that players at least have not been automatically/forcefully transfer listed.

@Club Trouville (Chucarro/nowadays Yayo), important, please read::

Your team has caused a most serious rule violation that is possible to make in HGL, as you have purchased non-HGL eligible player (Michel Karslian, June 22nd, 2026) during HGL Season (note: including Playoffs, even if you are not playing in Playoffs; this has been clearly stated in rules, just as mentioned below).

This will trigger level 5 penalty, which will mean you will be immediately disqualified from this and from full next HGL Season (Season 6).

This decision (and occurred rule violation) is very clear and therefore easy (yet unfortunate) to make.


In rules it says about Level 5 penalty:
"Level 5: Immediate disqualification from the current and for the full forthcoming Season; match in where violation occurred, and all the future scores for the current Season will become 0-50 forfeit losses."


In other rules post, it says like this:
"You can not become non-homegrown team (by buying HGL-ineligible players) on any part of the season, including whole duration of HGL Playoffs , if you wish to participate in HGL on the next Season. Becoming non-HG team will cause an immediate Level 5 penalty. (Certain exceptions that would only take effect after Regular Season has ended, and would only be meant for teams not reaching Playoffs at all could be considered for further Seasons of HGL, but such rules won't be in effect at Season 5 of HGL)."

It is unfortunate that our ways departed this way, especially as you've been loyal manager since the very beginning. It's hard to believe it would leave good taste to anyone's mouth so to speak, but it is what it is..

Last edited by Wagner at 6/23/2026 5:05:18 AM

@all HGL managers:
If you still haven't filled match scores to your box score post on Regular Season 5 matches, now is time to do it!


@all HGL managers who finished to top12 on the Season 5 league table:

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Note: this post has also been published on Scores-Thread, so you don't need to read it again there if you read it here, I just sent it there as well so that everyone surely sees this.
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It is Playoff time, so it's time to take all your extra cunning strategies from the drawer and see if they could cause some upsets on this Season's Playoffs! Maybe proving me wrong provides an extra motivation for underdogs, so maybe I'll make a guess, that home teams will win on this Season as well... ;)

You all know the drill, but as a quick reminder:

- Teams on top4 positions rest the first week (next Sunday) - congratulations for your free ticket to Second Round!

- All playoff matches are played on home/away court only !)

- Organize Season 5 Playoff matches at the same time that all your other HGL matches seem to have been played when you take at look your BB schedule!

- Note: Publish your Playoff match links as soon as match has been organized!


Here below are the matchups for First Round of Season 5 Playoffs;

please let me know if you find any faults/mistakes in ORSR-rankings, or Playoff matchups - I have done as careful work as I can, yet we are all human, so I appreciate if some eyes in our community occasionally do some double checking/scanning to spot any possible errors (before they'd cause any harm/inconvenience).
As I said, I've tried to do as careful work as possible, so I'd almost promise to eat my hat if you'd spot any critical errors from these First Round matchups, but better safe than sorry, yes? :)

PO Round 1 (teams ranked 5th-12th; 8 teams play): Sunday, June 28th, 2026
Rank #5 EOS vs. #12 HB *Waiting for match link!* (Update on June 27th 04.30PM EET DST: HB still hasn't logged in after 21st of June)
Rank #6 LMS vs. #11 MAD (139701203)
Rank #7 ED vs. #10 VDT (139702502) *@ED: *Add match link to box score post!*
Rank #8 WMO vs. #9 LGM (139701277)

Last edited by Wagner at 6/27/2026 10:00:21 AM

@LA-LennuK.:
HB (Spela) has been sent another reminder (this time warning) for a forfeit loss risk if he fails to organize the match.

As I wrote elsewhere (to LA-LennuK.), technically I guess the forfeit limit could be interpreted as Friday at game time, but I don't think we've quite enforced that rule to the max (with matches of which match time have not yet passed) so far, even though there have occasionally been problems with match organizing process (such as correct match links being available later than that on some matches, and I guess if my memory serves me HB also had this similar situation few Seasons ago, saved by the bell at that time?).

In rules-post it states like this:

Remember: last Regular Season match will take place on Monday at 14.30, or 02.30PM EET Normal Time, OR 15.30, or 03.30PM EET DST, Daylight Savings Time, a.k.a. Summer Time, so after that match:
A) during rest of season there will be 3 days time to send the Playoff match challenge (normally Mon->Thu; during Playoffs Sun->Wed)
B) there´s (about) 2 days time to accept match challenge (if it's been sent at the latest possible time, on Wednesday, it needs to be accepted on Friday at the latest, before your designated HGL match time).
However, the sooner you send a challenge (or accept it) the better, as it allows more time to set the lineups/tactics.

While it's super inconvenient from many points of view (that someone would need to keep on checking and checking whether or not match is organized or not - I'm looking at myself here), to discourage such behavior it's possible to start enforcing harder penalties with such occasions of neglect on most critical times of the Season.

However, I'd also like to hear from you LA-LennuK., what's your tolerance and limit in this situation - are you feeling extra lenient or not, as you're the one who is also being affected in a major way?

(Of course, just as before, if HB doesn't log in before match is supposed to take place, it's then 100% easy decision, as that'd be a similar situation what happened with SUM if my memory serves me. But let's use this as an example once again - everyone, let's keep on organizing Playoff-matches as soon as possible, thank you).


Last edited by Wagner at 6/25/2026 8:28:54 PM

I don't have a problem waiting some more in this case. Today is the training day and tomorrow the league games take place, so perhaps Spela would log in for one or both of these occasions to check on the team. I have a default lineup set, so I would be somewhat prepared. So, from my side, we can wait until Saturday evening/Sunday morning. I have sent them a BB-mail too, so should they log in in the next days, the they would at least be aware that there is a challenge waiting.

For the future, just to avoid any really inconvenient situations, it might make sense to set a more definitive timeframe for organizing PO matches and really enforcing it, but I really hope that we don't have to resort to such measures.

I don't have a problem waiting some more in this case. Today is the training day and tomorrow the league games take place, so perhaps Spela would log in for one or both of these occasions to check on the team. I have a default lineup set, so I would be somewhat prepared. So, from my side, we can wait until Saturday evening/Sunday morning. I have sent them a BB-mail too, so should they log in in the next days, the they would at least be aware that there is a challenge waiting.

For the future, just to avoid any really inconvenient situations, it might make sense to set a more definitive timeframe for organizing PO matches and really enforcing it, but I really hope that we don't have to resort to such measures.

Yes, it could be beneficial to set more strict/firm timeline (although Friday at HGL game time in itself is quite clear, but it remains lot of assumptions in the air, such as that the correct challenge has been sent in time - which I have no doubt it in this case has, but on some other occasions there wouldn't necessarily be as strong case to back that up - or that a proof of a sent challenge might not exist at all or would be inconvenient to provide, should the away team in Playoffs deny their mistake).

Also, while you're most affected here in such situation, like I mentioned, I also try to avoid situations where I have to jump in and out of BB every day at given times to see if some delayed (or in a risk of being late-) duty has been taken care of.

But again, the most difficult thing, as we want to be fair to all, is that in situations where there have been recent logings from both managers involved (not in this case at least for now), we're practically having to rely on words of 2 different managers, which can in worst case scenario provide "2 different truths" of the situation. I hope that'll never be the case though, but I'm just saying it's perfectly possible.

Thanks for letting me know you're willing to wait in this case - let's then wait for bit longer in this case to see if Spela would log in soon.

Nevertheless, such situations are very inconvenient for all teams involved and for me, so everybody, please always arrange Playoff matches as soon as possible.