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Date: 8/3/2026 11:27:34 AM
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Very weak argument.

1. What is the most popular defense at this moment?

2. What are the type of centers mostly used in top leagues?

3. What are the type of centers mostly used in national teams?

4. What are the type of centers mostly used in u21 national teams that qualified for the second phase?

5. What are the type of centers mostly used in the B3 / BBM 1,2,3,4,5?

5. Last but not least, what are the types of bigs all the previous winners of B3 have used on their quest to the B3, and what is the type of centers employed by the very recently crowned B3 Winner, dequestion?

Besides the fact that most SB'rs won't be on sale, due of their usefulness to teams, unlike traditional bigs, who being more well known and popular (lots of teams still play the traditional way, with high IS Centers), are also more expensive and less useful in the current GE.

I'll repeat the question, do you think it makes sense that 50k SB bigs can completely shutdown 150k bigs and display the same level of performance according to their builds? Why do you think that across all top leagues and top competitions that 3-2 is almost exlusively employed?



. The Most Popular Defense

The 3-2 zone remains the undisputed king of defenses at the highest levels of competitive play. It dominates because of how the Game Engine (GE) evaluates perimeter coverage, outside shooting suppression, and the synergy it creates when paired with specific frontcourt archetypes. You dont sb to_peform 3-2 you need outside defense .

2 & 3. Centers in Top Leagues and National Teams

Top Leagues: High-tier managers heavily lean toward multi-skilled, mobile bigs who feature strong secondary defenses and respectable handling/passing, rather than one-dimensional specialists.

National Teams: At the NT level, where margins for error are razor-thin, coaches universally prioritize tactical flexibility. Bigs must possess defensive versatility to counter modern motion and perimeter-heavy offenses.

4 & 5. U21 Second-Phase & B3 / BBM Divisions (1 through 5)
Across advanced U21 competition and the grueling rounds of the B3 (BuzzerBeater Masters) and its preliminary stages, rosters homogenize quickly. You stop seeing pure, lumbering traditional anchors because the court to afford meta punishes lack of defensive distribution. Competitors lean heavily into optimized, cost-effective builds that maximize defensive rating returns per dollar spent.


6. B3 Winners and the Blueprint
Past B3 champions and top-tier tournament contenders have consistently shifted away from bloated, high-salary traditional inside scorers, favoring structurally efficient bigs who excel at multi-faceted defensive contributions. Optimization of salary caps and skill points dictates that every single drop of salary must pull its weight against elite tactics. You should know this, it has nothing do with shot block manipulation, its about technique,

Conclusion:

A 50k salary-optimized big can shut down a 150k traditional giant because the BuzzerBeater game engine rewards algorithmic checkpoint math over sticker price. When top leagues, national teams, and B3 champions—including recent meta-shapers—rely exclusively on the 3-2 zone and cost-efficient builds, it proves that inflated Inside Scoring is a salary trap. Winning the GE isn't about buying the most expensive player; it's about paying strictly for the defensive stat checks that actually stop possessions. Your neglecting. The synergy of the defense.


All defenses can work, Sb. Is not making 2-3 zone work, nor 1-3-1. SO .. I’d like you to express why it doesn’t work there if sb was overpowering on teams . I await your respected rebuttal.

Last edited by Big city at 8/3/2026 11:36:55 AM

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Date: 8/3/2026 11:56:39 AM
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Hello

I’m respectful. Disagree.

I think this is a judgement of your feeling rather than game facts . The 2 most powerful defense’s in the game is Outside/Inside defense . Inside defense is actually hard coded in-the GE. To no matter the player skill on the offense, the game will not give you an inside shot.

If your telling us if S-B is over powered, then why is 2-3 zone not working or 1-3-1. 3-2 is a zone it not situational as the other two basically a mandatory meta.. Why is that, please express and those two defensive tactics are based on shotblocking. .

Shotblocking does not apply to guard’s on the perimeters only in the zone. Now 2-3 there should be more steals and blocks than 3-2 zone. But not the case. 1-3-1 should have more than both, again not the case.. I would like for foyou to address this factually and honestly not emotionally. Don’t fall back in to / This guy doesnt know.

I do know..

Last edited by Big city at 8/3/2026 12:01:48 PM

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Date: 8/3/2026 12:27:06 PM
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Hello

Where is ai here?. How would Ai help here ,when ai cannot access anything here.

Training or. Understanding the game is not that hard. As you make it be ,the game has said to been around for what 18- 20years. How can a person not know how to train efficiently and effectively. I assume the forum and the threads have been around before any Ai.. What good would Ai do here for those minds.?

Why bring that up like it matter to person who can read and understand, 20 year of data of the forums. Ai s not only forum of learning and knowing something.

Mind you, I asked my country’s NT coach about training., read the forums as he told me too , I asked many top manager silently, who have been graceful and kind ,humble enough to reply and share in-depth information for a new manager to process , Why offend me like that.? Why? Why are you challenging another intelligence or their ability to grasp concept better than the next. Do you not do the same? Is there not 18-20 years of information on the forums .

I know how the defenses work. I have asked., i have tried them . So again why try to belittle me , Do the forums not say how,before i have been a member here. Salary effective player being build is not that hard. Ai didnt write anything here, long time managers did. So why would go to that for information it can’t access anything here,!!

Can. A 15k a week out play 30K a week. ( yes). But there are many factors, and forums tell us for many years, Game shape, Stamina,. Enthusiasm,.. !! It also tell how to build them as well .


Just read the forums more. Its very powerful helpful tool.

Last edited by Big city at 8/3/2026 12:36:54 PM

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Date: 8/5/2026 5:33:35 PM
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I've mostly given up posting this because it's always ignored, however, in best Don Quixote fashion: communication should be forum first, discord a very distant second.

On the subject of communication I find any comments about it by those in charge laughable. There is never adequate communication nor has there ever been.

Finally, can we not have GMs ganging up on people posting their thoughts.

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Date: 8/6/2026 8:34:08 AM
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[...] communication should be forum first, discord a very distant second.
[...]

I find this point of yours very important indeed and agree with you 100% (on the part that I quoted above).

Personally the only situation when I find prioritizing communicating in Discord "acceptable/understandable" over BB forums would be if devs/owners/etc. wouldn't - for some very unlikely reason - have access to BB themselves (if BB would be down temporarily).

Other than that, there's really no excuse in my opinion.

I think we have to bear in mind what Discord is - a separate platform/service which has completely different EULA etc., a platform into which membership/access is not automatically created/"granted", when you create a BB account. (Yes, I understand it's a "free" service, but that's not the point here).

Accessing a separate service/platform should never be a prerequisite in order to be able to be informed among the first users about important subjects, not to mention important changes.

Sorry if this was too much of an off-topic, but I mentioned it because I think changing this discord first-policy would benefit BB community and create more welcoming atmosphere for (also new) managers that don't use Discord.

You've all seen what's happened to many/most BB forum thread's activity, after Discord was introduced/endorsed by some in BB (I'm not aware if those were devs, owners, GM's or other active managers so hence I'm not determining who "started" it - nor would pointing fingers at anyone do any good anyway as milk has already spilled/damage has already been done as far as it's effect on BB forum activity is concerned - but nevertheless, the end result currently remains the same).

Last edited by Wagner at 8/6/2026 8:37:30 AM