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[...] However, it will take considerable time just to catch up this season.

The speed it takes could mean that rather than a 'live' Leaders table this season, I might end up with providing the End Of Season (EOS) Leaders...say, the top 10 players in each of the categories mentioned above.

At the end of the day, it's you who would be doing the work on these pts, reb, ast, stl, blk player top10(/whatever the number will be) stats-categories, and all of this is a positive contribution to HGL.

Therefore, it's your call whether you want to make it live or end of season (EOS - I believe there's a small problem with this abbreviation though, yes?;) stats. As I said, I understand the demands of "live" stats publishing, so I more than well understand if you want to publish end of season-stats "only" (or stats in chunks during RS, like is the intended publishing schedule of HGL team stats).

Nevertheless, whichever publishing schedule youi'll choose, all the work towards HGL statistics is highly appreciated by me, and I feel confident in saying, that also by many other HGL managers.

I have not been keeping track of the player stats, so it's great that you are doing so. I do however have a spreadsheet of my own wit hall the stats of my own players for all seasons I have participated. I think an end of season leaders idea is a good one, as I imagine updating such spreadsheet after every game could take lots of time.

League tables updated after Round 9.

As expected, some interesting action took place. But before that, please check out updated league table, and note how even it is currently among some "levels", such as fight for positions 2-4 (same amount of wins) and positions 7-14 (all these teams are only two wins apart). Could we just say game is still completely open, what becomes to good Playoff positions.. :)

As far as my Round 9 game previews go, RAJ was able to snatch even surprisingly comfortable win over LMS, making the gap between them a length of 3 games (considering RAJ will be positioned above in a case of their draw in wins). 10 more rebounds and about 9% worse FG% was too much for LMS to overcome.

VIV-VPO: win streak of VPO was being continued, however, the difference was only 7 points before the 4th. Now all teams ranked currently #2 to #4 in RS have had their attempt in winning VPO, with KKS coming closest to actually achieving that by losing only 2. VPO has already met ED and LMS (next in the league table on positions 5 and 6 currently), so will it be an easy ride for the rest of the RS for VPO?

HB-WMO: HB wasn't able to find an answer to WMO's inside defense orientation (level 11 in this match), losing last quarter by 10 and whole match by 14. Not absolutely dramatic differences, but WMO was better in many categories.

ED-MAD: While it might seem like a beating of some sort if you only look at the scoreboard (result) only, I suggest you take a glance of 4th quarter points: 37-15! So as MAD lost by 18 at the end, and lost 4th by 22, we can conclude that MAD actually led by 4 before the 4th! What really stands out for me in the stats are MAD's 18 turnovers (of which only 4 were ED's steals) and lots of points that were left on the free throw line by both teams.

As for Finland-Estonia match, on Season 4 it's 1-1 as BCR was able to erase my 14 point lead during 4th quarter and forced the game to the overtime, yet still suffering a narrow loss after 53 minutes of even battle. Ending 141-135, I wonder if this is one of the highest scoring matches in HGL RS history, in total points scored in a match? I haven't yet kept a record of such stats, so I could well be way off with my thought... But has anyone got better idea (or actual information) of HGL all-time record in this category?

As an added match I'd like to add VDT-HGK, that posed some interesting stats: HGK lost the match by 28, but were able to make a new HGL RS record with total of 32 offensive rebounds! They also won total rebounds 68-37 (31 rebound difference!), but on the other hand mishandled the ball big time (turned over the ball 26 times, of which half of them were VDT's steals) which harmed their chances of winning big time. Of course limited success rate (2 of 14) behind the three point arc while allowing VDT 11 of 23 shooting beyond the arc limited their chances as well, but that was to be expected as drive to the basket-strategy has a strong tendency to cause that (so it was a conscious decision from an experienced manager).


Last edited by Wagner at 2/16/2026 10:54:00 AM

I wonder if all or most of you have already seen this (these) post(s), called 'BB New World Records': (329543.1)

It has an exhaustive listing of different categories, of which many are very interesting.

I don't know if we'd ever be able to get into that breadth specifically in player/team records in single HGL match, but this records-listing certainly gives some interesting and fresh ideas on what we possibly could keep records of. :)

Last edited by Wagner at 2/16/2026 11:50:56 AM

I've now released updated HGL team stats (45 stats categories), which reflect teams' success after Regular Season Round 9 (on Season 4, of course). Last publication day was after Round 4, so plenty of changes have taken place since.

See it for yourself, here:

Season 4 Team Stats Post 1/3: (329502.16)
Season 4 Team Stats Post 2/3: (329502.17)
Season 4 Team Stats Post 3/3: (329502.18)

Now that it's only Monday, there's still plenty of time to prepare for your next HGL games on Friday and on next Monday, so you're free to examine your next opponents strengths and weaknesses by checking out those stats.

If it's not clear what these statistical categories are/mean, please don't hesitate to ask for help.

I have left with an impression that there could be quite many in our HGL community that are knowledgeable about stats, and while I'm no expert by any means, I happily try to answer your questions if any shall be asked.

First it's of course advisable to read glossary/legend/explanation post, which is located just before these Team Stats-posts.

Last edited by Wagner at 2/16/2026 1:24:18 PM

[...] I do however have a spreadsheet of my own wit hall the stats of my own players for all seasons I have participated. [...]

This is an excellent thing to do - I should also probably try to find time to gather all these. I actually already started collecting my own player stats for part of one season (in one of the earlier HGL Seasons), but maybe the way I approached it was wrong (structurally) because I found tables way too slow/arduous to fill.

So having said that, maybe I need to ask tips from you and MrJ on how you guys have actually done it (how you have arranged tables/tabs within tables, which method/program are you using for the data collecting and calculating, etc.) to make updating it as smooth as possible?

Last edited by Wagner at 2/17/2026 4:48:32 AM

Wagner wrote: As an added match I'd like to add VDT-HGK, that posed some interesting stats: HGK lost the match by 28, but were able to make a new HGL RS record with total of 32 offensive rebounds! They also won total rebounds 68-37 (31 rebound difference!), but on the other hand mishandled the ball big time (turned over the ball 26 times, of which half of them were VDT's steals) which harmed their chances of winning big time. Of course limited success rate (2 of 14) behind the three point arc while allowing VDT 11 of 23 shooting beyond the arc limited their chances as well, but that was to be expected as drive to the basket-strategy has a strong tendency to cause that (so it was a conscious decision from an experienced manager).

MrJ wrote: Yeah, this was a great learning game for me. Wrong offensive tactics which doesn't play to my strengths. I had plenty of the ball (shot more than VDT, collected more second shots than VDT) and still got hammered. The scoreline doesn't reflect VDT's 1st half demolition of my team. I gained some valuable insights from this match. Yes, I'm disappointed by the end score, but it was n important loss for me.

Well done, VDT! Your salaries are only about $80k more than mine (if my memory serves me correctly), but you played much better than that suggests. Clearly you have trained your players well.

This is where things sometimes get interesting - I have about 90K higher salaries than VDT, and what did they do just a while a go? Won me by 10. (Yes, excellent tactical choices were part of that, but still... Anyway, that's what I wish I'd see even more in BB, that salary underdogs have a good shot at win).

So yes, absolutely a game you could've had a better shot at win, but after meeting VDT earlier, I knew it's going to be a tough night for you (as I on the other hand won you on our previous meeting by 21).

But it's good that you had that kind of attitude towards the loss - you always learn/gain something, if you want to do the work and analyze things a little bit.

What I also hope will help in analyzing your team strengths and weaknesses, are the HGL Team Statistics that just 'got out of the oven' (updated after S4 RS Round 9), as mentioned in one of my previous posts.

As for single player success in that VDT match, I guess you'd be better in writing about that. But if we take your X.Tsattalios as an example - who you've mentioned often, and who is the highest rating player in your league, Australia III.2 - he had an off night. Normally match rating in III.2 is 15.0 (86th in whole Australia), now was 12.5.
Typically his AST/TO rating is 4,86 (3rd in league, 58th nationwide), but now in this match 0,29.
Typically he will dish out 10,0 assists/48 minutes of play in your league games, but now he had 2 assists in 48 minutes.

Of course it's not totally "fair" comparison, as you don't face such challenge in your current "regular BB league", but it's still sometimes interesting to compare some typical league stats to a single HGL match success (or to a HGL Regular Season success, should we have some of those player stats available in the future).

Last edited by Wagner at 2/17/2026 5:16:09 AM