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331391.196 in reply to 331391.190
Date: 6/1/2026 6:31:43 PM
Wagner College
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The idea of ​​allowing other teams to join the HGL is interesting. I think it's fair that to join this league, teams must face the bottom-placed teams from each season. This is intended to make the HGL more competitive. [...] The bottom-placed team from the previous season faces the best of those aspiring to join the league. The best of the "outside" teams is decided in one-off matches on neutral ground.

Thank you for your response, SventraCanestri!

I'm glad to hear your share the view on fairness of that logic (of having to beat the worst HGL team, in order to open an entrance to HGL) - that would ensure the best teams are playing each Season. As for whether or not the match (HGL Relegation/Promotion Final) match should take on neutral court,or on the home court of better team (IRL team playing in higher league - in this case HGL - is often considered team that receives a home court advantage for the series if they face a relegation threat in that match series/match).
But regardless, you pretty much condensed what I had proposed before, so maybe it reaches more managers being more manageable post in terms of a character count.

Also, as for certain suggestion (yes, not your suggestion) about possible "relegation playoffs" (among 'then current HGL teams'), I don't think that should be a thing with HGL teams at all, for so many reasons, but also to minimize the effect of relegation threat to committed HGL teams, and also because in practice "the pecking order" is already determined by ORSR-rankings at the end of RS.
And, while some might disagree on this, I think it's still easier to find success when utilizing selling and buying-strategy within currently accepted HGL limits (as HGL policy is to allow certain trading currently).
So then to minimize the benefit of such potential actions (especially at the middle/at the end of the Season, if team is facing a relegation threat), and make sure it doesn't put (totally non-trading vs. trading) teams in different "level/starting point" in terms of being able to avoid relegation during those so called "relegation playoffs", no such playoffs should exist at all I think. As mentioned in reply to MrJ, also injuries would play too big of a part there. (Yes, I understand they affect normal Playoffs as well, but in Playoffs, teams haven't got "nothing to lose" compared to 'fighting for their life in relegation battle', as facing a relegation threat in HGL means team is playing for it's future (for next Season), which is a big thing.

Note: That doesn't mean worst team couldn't be subjected to relegation threat, but I'm talking about including multiple 'then current HGL-teams' being subjected to relegation threat. (With risk of repeat; I don't think multiple teams per Season should be subjected to that).
If one would have some "reserve players" out there in the world (sold to other BB teams) and would be in a relegation threat, they could simply try to gain an edge over non-trading teams by buying player back for the relegation playoffs, and that's exactly what I want to avoid in HGL, as relegation is in a way most critical thing team would face. (Of course this would be possible also for the worst HGL team or best HGL-PL team to utilize such strategy, but I hope you all understood my point).

Last edited by Wagner at 6/1/2026 6:40:34 PM

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331391.197 in reply to 331391.192
Date: 6/5/2026 11:21:46 AM
BC Eos
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Köplased
HGL 12. round, season 5:

Best collective performance of the evening

Point: 123 : Madrid Chotis
Defense: 62 : Madrid Chotis
Tot. Rebound: 62 : BC Rajaleidjad & Madrid Chotis
Off. Rebound: 21 : Wagner College
Assist: 35 : Hårdboll
Steal: 14 : Madrid Chotis & Lielupes Melnās Sirdis
Block: 18 : Madrid Chotis

Personal best performances of the evening

Point: 39 : A. Kotkovskis (Vilniaus „Vilkai“)
Tot. Rebound: 17 : G. Frosini (Virtus Portici)
Off. Rebound: 6 : J. Arminen (Wagner College) & V. Molina (WiMaOlCa)
Assist: 11 : M. Radomskis (Vilniaus „Vilkai“)
Steal: 5 : F. Forcas (Madrid Chotis)
Block: 7 : M. Bagunyà (Madrid Chotis)

The shooter: X. Tsattalios (Homegrown Kings): 9 Three points scored

The best performer: A. Kotkovskis (Vilniaus „Vilkai“): Rating: 18,5

Triple double: -

From: Wagner

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331391.199 in reply to 331391.196
Date: 6/6/2026 6:50:20 PM
Wagner College
II.2
Overall Posts Rated:
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@all:
Please note the opened voting, and vote within 8 days, thank you. As you all have noticed, I've sent you BBMail about it. Please vote on Official Thread, and not preferably to my BBMail (in order to be able to keep better records of voting results).


I just updated "interested teams"-post (331392.83), and noticed that couple of theoretically interested teams have gone into serious shopping spree, making them currently seriously ineligible for HGL.

So it seems there would be 4-5 participants in our first HGL-PL (HGL Promotion/Participation League), depending on whether or not
A) San Fernando VR for some reason would want to sell their ineligible player to enter HGL-PL, and/or
B) if you guys are aware of some other interested team.

I should likely start contacting these interested teams shortly, to see who would like to use tokens for it this time, as there likely aren't open way for HGL Season 6 available through HGL-PL.
However, as I've just managed to get this part of the project done, as I mentioned, it hasn't been decided if this first HGL-PL also would serve as a valid result in terms of determining which team would get to challenge worst team of HGL after Season 6 (if that would be the result of the currently open voting, to create a one team per HGL Season relegation/promotion-scenario to HGL).


I'd like to hear many opinions on this as well, that should we use this result from first ever HGL-PL for Season 7 as well (unless new interested teams apply after start of HGL-PL, that would be interested in Season 7 participation), or only for potential withdrawal scenarios (to potentially replace teams to Season 6).

Remember: even if there wouldn't be direct open spots for Season 6, it has been the case so many times before, that team(s) withdraw "at the last minute", and for those scenarios it would always be good to have "an official pecking order" in which places would be offered to managers, and HGL-PL would provide us just that (in addition to giving managers a chance to play at least a game or few against HG opposition).

However, I'll remind every potential HGL candidate, that HGL-PL isn't just a short league into where one should participate just to be able to play 'few fun games' - the whole intention is to play because you'd be interested in participating to the Season you might be offered a place into. Usually that would mean the next Season only, but as mentioned, it will be announced later whether or not this first HGL-PL is used for determining "best non-HGL team on Season 6" as well (that gets access to the HGL Relegation/Promotion Final match against worst HGL team on Season 6, again, if such relegation/promotion-scenario will/would be taken into use in HGL; if not, then they would be first in line when looking for replacement teams, if some HGL managers would withdraw voluntarily).

For the benefit of the league though, it'd be good that it'd be possible to create a similar kind of ranking as our typical ORSR (Official Regular Season Rankings) in HGL, to rank HGL-PL teams clearly.
(With partly/complete playoff-format that would be more tricky, but still probably doable with some pre-planning and rules creating - however, if we don't have too many teams, then round robin could be preferable format anyway as it's 100% fair to all).

Last edited by Wagner at 6/6/2026 7:37:51 PM

From: Pihija
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331391.200 in reply to 331391.199
Date: 6/8/2026 10:26:10 AM
KK Stihija
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Overall Posts Rated:
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Dinaid Bukva got injured for 14 days and my team lost 3 games in that period. Perhaps I would lose all 3 even with him on the team, but I was counting on only one loss, against Rajdersi :D

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331391.201 in reply to 331391.200
Date: 6/8/2026 10:38:05 AM
BC Eos
II.1
Overall Posts Rated:
373373
Second Team:
Köplased
Well, I definitely profited from that, even though I would have liked to square up to you in full strength

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331391.202 in reply to 331391.197
Date: 6/8/2026 10:50:43 AM
BC Eos
II.1
Overall Posts Rated:
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Second Team:
Köplased
HGL 13. round, season 5:

Best collective performance of the evening

Point: 116 : WiMaOlCa
Defense: 61 : Vilniaus „Vilkai“
Tot. Rebound: 67 : Vilniaus „Vilkai“
Off. Rebound: 26 : Hårdboll
Assist: 34 : BC Rajaleidjad
Steal: 8 : Vindicta, Homegrown Kings & Madrid Chotis
Block: 12 : KK Stihija

Personal best performances of the evening

Point: 37 : A. Maksimavicius (Vilniaus „Vilkai“)
Tot. Rebound: 22 : T. Dambekalns (Lielupes Melnās Sirdis)
Off. Rebound: 11 : T. Dambekalns (Lielupes Melnās Sirdis)
Assist: 15 : Y. Lagneau (WiMaOlCa)
Steal: 3 : P. Flament (Vindicta) & E. Livingstone (Homegrown Kings)
Block: 8 : M. Kavazić (KK Stihija)

The shooter: I. Ðurbuzović (KK Stihija), A. Maksimavicius (Vilniaus „Vilkai“) & Ü. Paabo (BC Eos): 5 Three points scored

The best performer: M. Radomskis (Vilniaus „Vilkai“): Rating: 18,0

Triple double: -

From: LA-LennuK

To: MrJ
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331391.204 in reply to 331391.203
Date: 6/9/2026 6:01:02 AM
BC Eos
II.1
Overall Posts Rated:
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Second Team:
Köplased
Sorry to hear that and no worries about the stats. Get well soon!

From: Pihija

To: MrJ
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331391.205 in reply to 331391.203
Date: 6/9/2026 10:41:43 AM
KK Stihija
II.4
Overall Posts Rated:
149149
However we like them, stats are ultimately irrelevant. Get well soon!

From: Wagner

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331391.206 in reply to 331391.200
Date: 6/9/2026 11:57:34 AM
Wagner College
II.2
Overall Posts Rated:
411411
League tables updated after RS 13.

Very even situation, and like KKS mentioned, his 3 losses over 4 last games have turned tables over a bit - what a critical injury at this stage of the Season... Let's hope Playoff matches won't be decided by important injuries.
(From teams currently seeming to reach Season 5 Playoffs, LGM and HB share the same 1W-3L record over last 4 games).

Now there are 5 teams within 1 win apart (2nd to 6th), and 8 teams 3 wins apart (from 2nd to 9th).
On the mid-table positions are still somewhat undecided as well, as we have 4 RS Rounds to go.

As for reaching Playoffs, as myself and BCR failed to find wins on RS R13, it was good news for HB as they also faced too strong of an opponent (RAJ; lost by 16) on RS Round 13.
There are now 4 games to go and HB (at 5W-8L) has a 2 win advantage over BCR and my team, and also have won both during Season 5 RS, which gives them the ultimate advantage over both of us currently 3W-10L teams.
Given that we all three are pretty much looking at 1-2 projected wins per team throughout the rest of RS (on paper that is; often times it's been accurate enough predictor), it's going to take a lot that BCR, myself, TRO or HGK would reach Playoffs this Season (instead of HB).

LMS-VIV on R15, and KKS-VIV on R16 could be some of the decisive matches on the rest of RS - interestingly VIV is having a 1 win edge over these fellow competitors with more expensive top8-rosters.

Good luck to all to the rest of the RS!

@all managers who have not yet voted:

Please remember to vote soon on currently open HGL voting, here: (331392.86)



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