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About HGL-PL participation-situation:

As I said, 8 additional teams were being informed of HGL-PL. In addition of 2 already committed teams (San Fernando VR and Tassie Devils):
- 1 team (M.L.S REICH) have at least initially confirmed their willingness to participate; I assume/understood they still want to read through some HGL posts to confirm that participating to them would suit them, but to me it currently seems more likely than not, that they're going to participate.
- 1 other team has confirmed their participation, borteam from Italy

- 4 teams out of 8 have confirmed they will not participate to this HGL-PL

- 2 teams have still not replied to me on that question.

So it's going pretty much the way I was expecting, in terms of a communication and "scoring rate" - almost never all teams will even respond to you, if the group is big enough. In this case though, if I'll/I'd still keep the application period to HGL-PL open for a short while, I might be proven wrong and who knows if even two remaining managers would reply.


Last edited by Wagner at 6/25/2026 8:03:59 PM

About HGL-PL participation-situation:

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I'd expect at least 1-3 replies out of those 5 teams though, if I'll/I'd still keep the application period to HGL-PL open for a short while.

More time might be needed then, Wagner.

Yes. We are not in a terrible rush of starting HGL-PL, and M.L.S. REICH also needs a bit of time to read through HGL posts (essential reading provided to them) in order to be able to decide whether or not they're willing to participate.

I just edited that post what you replied into, as I received third "no" from one of 8 managers, so that makes 4/8 replies currently.

Having said that, we don't want to delay start of HGL-PL too late either, so let's wait for a bit longer if some of those 4 responds, or if someone replies based on posts on Homegrown teams II-thread.

Firstly, I would like to say that your responses to my questions were professional and with respect and, as such, demand mine. This is why you are the Commissioner, Wagner. You are able to balance the myriad of intricacies required for your position as Commissioner.

Secondly, and as a result of your excellent responses, I would like to apologise. I could have done this via bbmail, but it deserves to be said in front of our peers.

And, although I was asking the questions rather than accusing you outright, I did walk that fine line between the two.

My respect for you has only increased.

Finally, yes, you and I may always have disagreements, however, as we have said often, it doesn't change our friendship. Well, it hasn't from my end and I hope it doesn't from yours.

As for the HGL-PL...

...let's see how it plays out.

Thank you for your considerate message and kind words, MrJ.
I can always learn for example condensing things/writings from you, and as there's not much more that'd need to be said (in addition to what you already mentioned in your reply), I'll keep it short this time. (Who guessed I even could produce this short messages?;)

Last edited by Wagner at 6/25/2026 7:29:49 AM

LOL We all learn, Wagner. Time is the only variable.

On another note, I am working hard on building the HGL League Office with AI. If I don't respond to any emails, please know that I am trying to finish Season 1 tonight. The Finished product, Wagner, is going to be pretty cool...


The HGL League Office
"The HGL League Office exists to preserve the history of the league, celebrate excellence, and provide an accurate, impartial record of every season, every team, and every player."

Sounds cool, I'm looking forward to seeing "the end product".

However, as I'm sure we all want to keep the data 100% accurate, I'd perhaps suggest you to create some certain "checkpoints" in your projects, in terms of being able to ensure data accuracy. I have found this to be very necessary thing to do with AI.

I mention this as I've had my difficulties with AI.
It does seemingly irrational and unbelievable errors at times (and does have certain odd restrictions, such as not remembering some older messages/writings/numbers from the exact same conversation), even when it's adviced it should avoid exactly those errors (after making such error first time).

So if you for instance create some rules that you use to check out if AI could've messed up with some statistics, I guess they could then be considered more trustworthy.

Some of the AI content I've tried to create for fun (practically not with HGL content at all; I've only calculated maybe 3 teams' top8-salaries with it, but others manually), as far as basketball statistics goes, have been interesting and helpful, but I don't seem to be able to get over those silly mistakes AI has continued to make over the course of the year or so when I've been playing around with it.

And when it comes to stats, 1 entry is all it takes to ruin everything (and in many cases AI makes a lot more critical mistakes than just excluding, say, 1 line or category of stats), like we saw from my mistake with missing 1 RS Round worth of team statistics (ED) last Season.

Last edited by Wagner at 6/25/2026 7:42:27 AM

Well, this looks to be extremely exciting! I can't wait to see the end product here. +1

Last edited by LA-LennuK at 6/25/2026 8:45:50 AM

Thx for your message, I've just sent a new link to VDT. (you're right, it's because of this unusual Sunday as firtst day of the week...)

Here is the new link (139702502)