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From: Wagner

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Date: 5/4/2026 6:59:09 AM
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I'll do everything undone (5 games but all have been checked and accepted by my opponents) tonight (in France).

OK. Please also change your wrong link on a match against WMO (played one hour too early).

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Date: 5/4/2026 8:16:39 AM
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all HGL managers:
As you all may have noticed, box score links not opening prior to match-issue has been fixed by BB, so we are able to start Season 5 normally, so all matches will count normally, that have now been linked to Official Schedule posts of HGL (match links have been taken from your box score posts, as usual).

There are still some problems with 8 out of 18 box scores, so please correct them ASAP if you know such problems exist, and/or see your teams' name on this post: (331391.62).


Now that the most critical work in terms of getting the Season start properly has been done, we can start to enjoy about one more highly competitive Season in HGL - I find that the average (and absolute, in the case of highest salaries) level of teams is high, so at least to me it feels that nothing comes easy. Good thing about this? Nothing worth fighting for comes easy, yes? :)

Good luck equally for everyone to Season 5, and let's keep the conversation flowing here on Official HGL Threads!


Last edited by Wagner at 5/4/2026 8:20:56 AM

From: WiMaOl

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Date: 5/4/2026 8:21:33 AM
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Second Team:
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that's a great new ! let's go to rumble

From: Wagner

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Date: 5/4/2026 8:29:43 AM
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that's a great new ! let's go to rumble (j)

Yes!

While we have bunch of very experienced managers here, I'm not sure if this is new to anyone, but I'll remind you guys that you can view any HGL match live if you want. This is one of the easiest ways to make that happen:

Just note (and copy-paste) a match number from HGL schedule-posts to replace xxx in below address line, and copy-paste that address line to your browser:

https://www.buzzerbeater.com/match/xxx/reportmatch.aspx?realtime=1


So let's say you'd like to follow TRO-WMO live on the RS Round 1.
TRO-WMO match number is 139595296, so you just copy that in the place of xxx above, and that does the trick!

So in this example, the actual TRO-WMO link (that will be added to browser address bar) would look like this:
https://www.buzzerbeater.com/match/139595296/reportmatch.aspx?realtime=1

Last edited by Wagner at 5/4/2026 8:31:20 AM

From: demars

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Date: 5/4/2026 3:53:35 PM
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That's ok, now, everything has been done :)
Thx for the job.

From: Wagner

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Date: 5/4/2026 6:31:34 PM
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That's ok, now, everything has been done :)
Thx for the job.

Alright, thanks for the corrections demars!

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Date: 5/7/2026 3:11:16 AM
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As I mentioned before, LA-LennuK. (BC Eos) has continued his tradition and calculated and formed us some HGL data and top5-tables. On Season 4 posts were also published on HGL "main" Thread, and those can be found from here: (329501.50); please see also another post below that linked one.

So big thanks once again LA-LennuK., here are your tables/comparisons/data that you provided for publishing for HGL Season 5:

Team: Salary S4 -> Salary S5 (in 1000 $) | Salary change (%) | Age S4 -> Age S5 (y) | Age change (y)

Wagner College (WAG): 349 -> 357 | +2,3% | 29,4 -> 30,4 | +1,0
Les Gueux du Marais (LGM): 278 -> 271 | -2,5% | 29,1 -> 30,1 | +1,0
Elan Demars (ED): 340 -> 372 | +9,4% | 29,3 -> 30,3 | +1,0
BC Eos (EOS): 432 -> 613* | +41,9% | 23,8 -> 24,3 | +0,5
Vilniaus „Vilkai“ (VIV): 430 -> 463 | +7,7% | 26,3 -> 27,3 | +1,0
Madrid Chotis (MAD): 279 -> 304 | +9,0% | 26,5 -> 27,6 | +1,1
WiMaOlca (WMO): 329 -> 357 | +8,5% | 26,9 -> 27,9 | +1,0
Rajdersi (RAJ): 447 -> 493 | +10,3% | 27,5 -> 28,5 | +1,0
Freccia Azzurra (FRE): 132 -> 173 | +31,1% | 24,4 -> 23,5 | -0,9
Hårdboll (HB): 444 -> 425 | -4.3% | 32,1 -> 31,4 | -0,7
Lielupes Melnās Sirdis (LMS): 526 -> 628 | +19,4% | 24,0 -> 25,0 | +1,0
Alanurmon Rikkaat (ALA): 164 -> 183 | +11,6% | 25,0 -> 24,9 | -0,1
Virtus Portici (VPO): 460 -> 418* | -9,1% | 31,0 -> 29,8 | -1,2
KK Stihija (KKS): 595 -> 626 | +5,2% | 27,4 -> 28,4 | +1,0
Club Trouville (TRO): 288 -> 304 | +5,6% | 28,6 -> 29,6 | +1,0
Vindicta (VDT): 258 -> 276 | +7,0% | 25,5 -> 26,5 | +1,0
Homegrown Kings (HGK): 140 -> 208* | +48,6% | 23,0 -> 24,6 | +1,6
BC Rajaleidjad (BCR): 398 -> 412 | +3,5% | 29,6 -> 29,0 | -0,6


* Denotes teams that have received salary benefits from transfers in S4:
EOS: Total benefit of 121K; purchase of T.Noorhani (130K), 9th player A.Kanter (9K)
VPO: Total benefit of 1K; purchase of S.Pinga (19K), 9th player P.Fedele (18K)
HGK: Total benefit of 49K; purchase of X.Tsattalios, 9th player L.Walshe (7K)

From: Wagner

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Date: 5/7/2026 3:27:55 AM
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Even more HGL Season 5 comparison data tables, made by LA-LennuK. (BC Eos):

Now for the top-5 categories.
The "*" still denotes the three teams with salary benefits from transfers (EOS, VPO and HGK):


Top 5 teams of top-8 players’ salaries in Season 5:
1. LMS (628K)
2. KKS (626K)
3. EOS* (613K)
4. RAJ (493K)
5. VIV (463K)

Top 5 teams of top-8 players’ salaries in Season 5 (excluding transfers of S4):
1. LMS (628K)
2. KKS (626K)
3. RAJ (493K)
4. EOS* (492K)
5. VIV (463K)

Top 5 of oldest teams (based on top-8 average ages) in Season 5:
1. HB (31,4 y)
2. WAG (30,4 y)
3. ED (30,3 y)
4. LGM (30,1 y)
5. VPO (29,8 y)

Top 5 of youngest teams (based on top-8 average ages) in Season 5:
1. FRE (23,5 y)
2. EOS (24,3 y)
3. HGK (24,6 y)
4. ALA (24,9 y)
5. LMS (25,0 y)

Top 5 of teams that increased the top-8 players’ salary most between Season 4 and Season 5 in absolute salary (including transfers):
1. EOS* (181K/41,9%)
2. LMS (102K/19,4%)
3. HGK* (68K/48,6%)
4. RAJ (46K/10,3%)
5. FRE (41K/31,1%)

Top 5 of teams that increased the top-8 players’ salary most between Season 4 and Season 5 in relative salary (including transfers):
1. HGK* (48,6%/68K)
2. EOS* (41,9%/181K)
3. FRE (31,1%/41K)
4. LMS (19,4%/102K)
5. ALA (11,6%/19K)

Top 5 of teams that increased the top-8 players’ salary most between Season 4 and Season 5 in absolute salary by training only (excluding transfers):
1. LMS (102K/19,4%)
2. EOS* (60K/13,9%)
3. RAJ (46K/10,3%)
4. FRE (41K/31,1%)
5. VIV (33K/7,7%)

Top 5 of teams that increased the top-8 players’ salary most between Season 4 and Season 5 in relative salary by training only (excluding transfers):
1. FRE (31,1%/41K)
2. LMS (19,4%/102K)
3. EOS* (13,9%/60K)
4. HGK* (13,6%/19K)
5. ALA (11,6%/19K)

Top 5 of teams getting younger (or less old, based on top-8 average ages) between Season 4 and Season 5:
1. VPO (-1,2 y)
2. FRE (-0,9 y)
3. HB (-0,7 y)
4. BCR (-0,6 y)
5. ALA (-0,1 y)

Team "power/value" in S5:

1. EOS*: 25,2 [K & per y]
2. LMS: 25,1
3. KKS: 22,0
4. RAJ: 17,3
5. VIV: 17,0
6. BCR: 14,2
7. VPO*: 14,0
8. HB: 13,5
9. WMO: 12,8
10.ED: 12,3
11. WAG: 11,7
12. MAD: 11,0
13. VDT: 10,4
14. TRO: 10,3
15. LGM: 9,0
16. HGK*: 8,5
17. FRE: 7,4
18. ALA: 7,3

Note/explanation (from previous Seasons) on "power/value"-comparison by LennuK.:

I tried to think of other interesting parameters other than just salary and age, which would be interesting to monitor over the seasons. So, I looked into the relationship between the ages and salaries directly [...]
So, I looked at the parameter of top-8 salary sum divided by the top-8 average age to get a general parameter or a “power” ranking showing the salary to age ratio (in 1000$ per year of the average age), which could probably even be termed “value” of the players on the roster of a specific team. This by no means determines the actual value of the players in the top-8 of different teams, but is interesting to look at, when considering that a high salary and a young age are associated with a player that is actually valuable; hence the higher the described ratio is, the higher the “value” of a player would/should be. If you think such information could be interesting too, here comes the list of the HGL teams in Season 3 in the order of more to less “valuable” players in the top-8 considering their salary to age ratio.

From: Wagner

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Date: 5/7/2026 4:18:43 AM
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Further calculations for HGL Season 5, made by LA-LennuK. (thanks once again!).
LA-LennuK.: please don't hesitate to correct my explanations LA-LennuK. if you find them being not correct, because you're the creator of these tables and know them "from inside out".

Team S4 top8-salary -> S5 total top8-salary - (S5 top8-"training salary"=without transfers on S4) - [Overall "training salary"= S5 top8-salary without transferred players at all]
Wagner College (WAG): 349 -> 357, (357), [357]
Les Gueux du Marais (LGM): 278 -> 271, (271), [271]
Elan Demars (ED): 340 -> 372, (372), [372]
BC Eos (EOS): 432 -> 613, (492), [442]
Vilniaus „Vilkai“ (VIV): 430 -> 463, (463), [437]
Madrid Chotis (MAD): 279 -> 304, (304), [304]
WiMaOlca (WMO): 329 -> 357, (357), [357]
Rajdersi (RAJ): 447 -> 493, (493), [488]
Freccia Azzurra (FRE): 132 -> 173, (173), [173]
Hårdboll (HB): 444 -> 425, (425), [425]
Lielupes Melnās Sirdis (LMS): 526 -> 628, (628), [458]
Alanurmon Rikkaat (ALA): 164 -> 183, (183), [183]
Virtus Portici (VPO): 460 -> 418, (417), [153]
KK Stihija (KKS): 595 -> 626, (626), [626]
Club Trouville (TRO): 288 -> 304, (304), [304]
Vindicta (VDT): 258 -> 276, (276), [276]
Homegrown Kings (HGK): 140 -> 208, (159), [159]
BC Rajaleidjad (BCR): 398 -> 412, (412), [412]


So as for above table, published with his permission, here's how LA-LennuK. explained them to me:


The way I meant for these salaries to be interpreted:
1. Salary in bold. This is the added salary of the 8 highest salary players for each team at the beginning of the season regardless of their transfer history, as we have done it for the previous seasons.
2. Salary in round brackets. This is the salary that should represent the training effect from the previous season only. So this is the added salary of the 8 highest salary players, who were in their respective rosters for the salary calculations in S4. For every player that was not in its current roster at the beginning of the previous season, the player(s) below him in the salary ranking move up accordingly, so that the calculations encompass 8 players. For S5, only 3 teams have differing salaries: EOS, due to purchase of T.Noorhani, VPO due to purchase of S.Pinga, HGK due to purchase X.Tsattalios. All these players are currently in the top-8 and were not part of their rosters on the first gameday of HGL S4, thus not attributing to the pure training effect on the salary. So the label could be something like: S5 salaries without considering players transferred during S4.
3. Salary in italics and square brackets. This is the added salary of the 8 highest salary players, who have never been transferred and have stayed only with the club that drafted them. This ignores all of the purchased ex-draftees in the calculations, replacing them with correspondingly many players from the lower ranks of the salary list. For example, VPO has purchased (partly a long time ago) 11 players currently on their roster, so for every one of them, a player from the lower ranks is moved up, so that their 8th best salary in this calculation is only 301$ (E.Iacuzzo).

And to further clear it up, he continued:

So the third* number is also the (top-8) salary at the beginning of S5, as the second* one is, where I have removed the potential increase in the salary through transfers. So the S4 part in the title addressed that the transfers were made through S4, but otherwise it's still the S5 salary.

*=tables edited, so had to change these from original text

As for further explanation on how to interpret this above salary table, due to BB message character limitations, please see next post.


Last edited by Wagner at 5/12/2026 8:19:34 AM

From: Wagner

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Date: 5/7/2026 4:30:02 AM
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This post further opens up the logic behind the above post salary comparison table, through an example (and message) provided by LA-LennuK., and naturally this as well is published with his consent:

Okay, let me try to make an example here based on my team. So at the beginning of S4 my top-8 salary was 432K, which at the beginning of S5 is now 613K. The salary in round brackets basically simulates, what my top-8 salary would have been, if I hadn't bought T.Noorhani (130K) towards the end of last season, so i subtract 130K from my total top-8 salary: 613K-130K=483K. Though, the result from this subtraction would now represent a "top-7 salary", as I completely removed one player (Noorhani) from the equation, so I fill up that salary with the current 9th best player, who would have been the 8th salarywise, if I hadn't purchased Noorhani. This is A.Kanter with 9K salary. So now I add his salary to the previous "top-7 salary": 483K+9K=492K. In that way I have completely removed purchased players in S4 from the top-8 salary calculations and hereby ignoring any salary benefit that might have occurred through transfers in S4. Also, the pure training effect on salary is shown.

In your case((#)), as you did not get any transfers during S4, both the second* and the third* salary categories are identical, as your "salary benefit through transfers" would be 0. Or in other words, the salary effect through training for you is the "full" salary.

((#))='In your case' refers to my team, WAG (Wagner College) in a previous post.
*=I had to change LA-LennuK.'s writings so that it refers to correct numbers, as table was slightly changed after this message.

Last edited by Wagner at 5/12/2026 8:25:40 AM

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Date: 5/7/2026 4:30:37 AM
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Just like on last Season, I formed again a top8-salary table of all HGL teams on Season 5, based on previous data provided by LennuK. (and have now edited it due to 1 transfer by KKS).

In this case I made an attempt to make table little bit more visual, and also added familiar "league table lines" (after 4th and 12th teams) to this post, so that we could easily compare at the end of Regular Season who has exceeded expectations, if we only look at top8-salary as a predictor of future success (which it of course solely isn't, but that's still about the best value we do have available as people are understandingly not willing to expose their players' skill point numbers).

In a table below, I've given team one line per each starting $20K of wages. So for instance a team with $120K salary would receive 6 bars of line, while team with salary $152K would receive 7, and so on.

Visual top8-salary table of Season 5 HGL-teams:

-------------------------------Lielupes Melnās Sirdis (LMS) $628K
------------------------------BC Eos (EOS) 613
----------------------------KK Stihija (KKS) 566 #1
------------------------Rajdersi (RAJ) 493
-----------------------Vilniaus „Vilkai“ (VIV) 463
---------------------Hårdboll (HB) 425
--------------------Virtus Portici (VPO) 418
--------------------BC Rajaleidjad (BCR) 412
------------------Elan Demars (ED) 372
-----------------WiMaOlca (WMO) 357
-----------------Wagner College (WAG) 357
---------------Madrid Chotis (MAD) 304
======================================
---------------Club Trouville (TRO) 304
-------------Vindicta (VDT) 276
-------------Les Gueux du Marais (LGM) 271
----------Homegrown Kings (HGK) 208
---------Alanurmon Rikkaat (ALA) 183
--------Freccia Azzurra (FRE): 173

#1=KK Stihija's Season 5 starting salary was $626K (salary on May 12th 2026 $566160; position in table changed from 2nd to 3rd due to transfer on May 11th, 2026).



Publishing of this following, new-to-HGL - table was inspired by this new data provided by LennuK. in earlier posts, that considers teams' top8-salary values without re-purchased players.

Visual top8-salary table without re-purchased players, of Season 5 HGL-teams:

-------------------------KK Stihija (KKS) [$566K] #1
------------------------Rajdersi (RAJ) [488]
---------------------Lielupes Melnās Sirdis (LMS) [458]
---------------------BC Eos (EOS) [442]
---------------------Vilniaus „Vilkai“ (VIV) [437]
---------------------Hårdboll (HB) [425]*
--------------------BC Rajaleidjad (BCR) [412]*
------------------Elan Demars (ED) [372]*
-----------------WiMaOlca (WMO) [357]*
-----------------Wagner College (WAG) [357]*
---------------Madrid Chotis (MAD) [304]*
---------------Club Trouville (TRO) [304]*
================================
-------------Vindicta (VDT) [276]*
-------------Les Gueux du Marais (LGM) [271]*
---------Alanurmon Rikkaat (ALA) [183]*
--------Freccia Azzurra (FRE): [173]*
-------Homegrown Kings (HGK) [159]
-------Virtus Portici (VPO) [153]

*=transfers/salary benefit doesn't affect this top8-salary value
#1=KK Stihija's Season 5 starting salary was $626K (salary on May 12th 2026 $566160)


Interesting takes on this second salary comparison-table (without re-purchased players)?

- Lot more even lines among teams, and some positions do change (some even dramatically), if we only consider no re-purchased players.

- Also, a many time HGL-champion, VPO - a team that still to this day hasn't managed to lose a single HGL match, is at the very bottom of the table when considering top8-salaries with no re-purchased players counted in top8.

Last edited by Wagner at 5/12/2026 9:29:06 AM

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