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What did they earn? The top 15 managers you mention are almost never the ones that trained these 165+ monsters, they just bought them after another very devoted manager spent real life years doing the training part.

What did they earn? The top 15 managers you mention are almost never the ones that trained these 165+ monsters, they just bought them after another very devoted manager spent real life years doing the training part.

Your problem with that is what? We can look every thing negatively or we can embrace it took 2-4+ real life years to create the player to come to the game. Somebody took the risk to create and somebody took the risk to buy ! It doesn’t lessen the risk of a lost.

And they sell for 3mill+. Again not cheap, 15 out of 13k managers, The odds of me or you facing such team is 0%.

Shot blocking being too strong in combination of 3-2 zone could have been solved rather easy by just finding way how to make shot blocking on jump shots less effective & "bigs" breaking 3-2 zone with ability to shoot easier than in past.

If you want realism, having modern basketball would mean that centers and especially every PF can shoot 32-38% for 3 on high volumen. Against modern 3-2 zone, teams just switch to 4-1 offense and by default one of bigs gets wide open, or elite passers break zone with interior pass through zone.

I actually agree with this sentiment strongly, this leads to a question I want to lead with BB-Marin on this front:

I'm aware that you tinkered with the formula and do not plan to visit much more salary recalculations for a little bit, but if you are not intending to enforce stricter costs on OD skill (because we have yet to see the effect of 3-2 nerf, as it is still in testing phase) , is there

A ) Discussions discussing the impact of 20 + X Skill in the game (legendary +5, so 25, 24,23, etc.) It was said before that 20 vs. 22 isn't much of a difference, but if that was the case, how come I see numerous upon numerous 22+ skill in IS and OD on the TL? Obviously there is value in there for Top level League 1/B3 teams and their respective NTs. I'm not saying kill these players entirely, but there should be drawbacks and "penalties" for going each skill beyond 20, because today it is rather simple to go and make a level 23 (skill) player. (say, light penalty for 21, and progressively grows the further away from 20 you go to 25, 26, etc.)

B )Discussions in the 3-2 Zone Nerf to fundamentally involve "PF" more on offense. so far the archtype isn't value much on the TL, as you have players like this guy
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who should be dominating the game from PF slot. Right now if you plug that build as PF against 3/2 zone he's facing guards for jumpers and bigs for interior defense. There should be a way that a very skilled PF "breaks" the 3-2 just like the OP suggested in the quote.

Due how much their salaries go up, majority of trainers end up giving their "Lebrons" to richest teams & top 15 anyway.


Look at B3 tournaments and how almost all teams are created. It's not home grown talent, most of them just, for one or more seasons, buy best players from TM, mostly because they have infrastructure for bloated salaries, where majority of coaches who spent actual years training those guys, often don't.

If you are stuck in 3rd division for whatever reason, and your prospect goes from $50K to $110K you will either sell him or make your roster worst for financial sake. In both cases, it won't help you.


But this irrelevant to a topic, bigger issue with new "loophole fixing" patch is ignoring how loopholes were created in first place. With poor game engine, that kills any offensive creativity, strongly overvalues defense, players literally teleport in 3-2 zone as almost all outside shots are somehow contested by guards, and almost all inside shots are contested by 2 ( shotblocking Cs ) .

PF spot is being complete and utter waste, where even if you have some PF who should be shooting well from outside, game engine does not allow any sort of offense where you could benefit off it.


I think that lot of game-fixes could have been achieved by simply adding motion offense that includes variation of 4-1 offense ( that would be direct counter for 3-2 zone ).
Small roster issue? Well, BB already has one useless defense, pressing, so why not rework pressing into progressive fatigue of opponent that will be punishing for small roster teams? Or have them foul out bit more in run& gun due more possessions played?
Want to prevent every team from overusing SB center? Well... One of ways how to NOT achieve it is to make "all around centers" even more expensive, while still being two-way- useless.


Salary cap & taxing on money hording should have been announced at least 2 seasons ago so players can adjust over time.

Hello

Ok. To build a 140-160+.

depends heavily on whether you execute this over a rapid 2-year window (intensive, highly expensive) or a more realistic 4-year window (balanced salary scaling).

Cost Category 2-Year Intensive Track / 4-Year Standard Track
Initial Purchase / Asset Value $2,000,000 – $4,000,000/ $1,500,000 – $3,000,000
Trainer Wages (Lvl 5/6) $3,000,000 – $5,000,000 / $4,500,000 – $7,500,000
Player Salary Expenses $1,500,000 – $2,500,000 / $3,500,000 – $6,000,000
Gym / Infrastructure Costs $1,000,000 / $1,000,000
TOTAL ESTIMATED COST $7.5M – $12.5M / $10.5M – $17.5M

Give or take, this is from my personal numbers , everyone else numbers is subjectives but close to this .. 18-year-old HoF +tiers with decent starting skills: Buying a clean then doing 1-on-1 or single-position training prospect on the transfer market usually costs between $1.5M, But this formula is kinda dated since it has changed. It’s a close estimation. I have personally a spent 8mill training superstars
potential.

I have level 5 trainer. Youth trainer max level, arena 17k seats . Gym level 3. I got most of my player in-the draft. Im thankful for that. Saved a bit there, Some i bought young and cheap.. but with new formula best guess is a 150+ is 4-6 real life years. 35Million+

Last edited by Big city at 8/10/2026 10:32:37 PM

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