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198394.11 in reply to 198394.1
Date: 10/14/2011 12:53:16 PM
KV Forever
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Ok, i just had a look at the standings.
Am i missing something? Suikerboys has 1 game lead over the 5th spot, but also +100 point difference.
Now if Suikerboys would loose and #5 wins his game (against you), #5 still needs to make up 100 points.
Now that is something i don't find realistic.

LoD: you are a smart guy: you should know this as well.
So why this post?

Is there a possibility you are trying to put pressure on your opponents before the PO's? ;)

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198394.12 in reply to 198394.11
Date: 10/14/2011 4:34:32 PM
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not realy. I don't think I will be in long enough to face you, and IF I am, it will end there anyway.

I also noticed the big difference in points, but it's not that unrealistic. Maybe it's because I know what I put for line-up.

I just set it, and if it wheren't for training, I would have NO player in there that would play my first PO game, just because I wouldn't risk the injuries.
Now I play Van Eeckhout full game. I hope to put him as SG in my PO game, so hope he will not get injured in his training game tomorrow.

My team will be very weak tomorrow. I play my least players, and play them full game, except for 1 position that has a back up, and also some out of position...
I also play TIE offcourse.
So if Lost is putting a good team, and is putting some/much effort in the game, I wouldn't be surprized if there is a huge point difference in our game. I haven't checked his strength atm, but I know he did win some games during the season against opponents with good players... I have seen huge differences in games where 1 team is sacking the game and the other is playing decent, so that's why I see this situation as exciting.
Lost can't take it easy, as my players aren THAT bad after all, but there is an opportunity for him.

Because you also need the win, you need to predict what suikerboys will do. Can you take the risk to think they will go easy as they feel safe the point difference is big enough? Or should you be carefull because suikerboys knows that even if they loose, they can't loose by a wide margin, so they have to put some effort in it anyway. And if they put some effort in it, will you be able to win easy? And what if they fear you will put some effort in it, because the win is important to you, and you play away, maybe they will have to put more then normal effort in it????

That's what I mean by exciting game. It's a snowball-effect. Each step you think ahead more, adds to the ball, and makes you want to put more effort in it. So where will both of you stop thinking?

I'm realy ancious to know. And I'm also realy curious to see the results for the game. I will loose tomorrow, I'm prety certain of that. Still LOST can not afford not to make max effort as he needs the point difference.

You can gamble offcourse, and play TIE, possibly giving up the game, but getting more enthousiasm, maybe it will be enough to reach PO finals. But you will have to face me first then. . If you can keep your No1 in our conf, you'll probably face a enthousiasmless team instead.
I don't think you'll be able to claim HCA in finals, but still I think claiming first spot in our conf, is prety important for the first 2 PO games.

There are a lot of possibilities, and you'll need to analyse a lot, to make the best decision. As I said, I'm glad I'm not in your position right now.


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198394.13 in reply to 198394.12
Date: 10/15/2011 3:32:01 PM
KV Forever
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A big upset, but not in my game.
Ivan lost his final game against #6!
And so i've clinched homecourt advantage throughout the entire PO's.
Didn't saw that one coming

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198394.14 in reply to 198394.13
Date: 10/15/2011 4:33:15 PM
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Now you still need to advance to the finals ;)
Will be intresting! Shame that Partizan doesn't play anymore -.-

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198394.15 in reply to 198394.14
Date: 10/16/2011 2:13:52 PM
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my prediction of possibility for LOST to advance wasn't wrong, it seems after the game.
But LOST didn't seize the opportunity, nor did suikerboys fear it.

almost 40 point diffrence on normal, would have been easely 60 with a crunch.

The diffrence between suikerboys and KV wasn't that big though, but I still feel it was not so unrealistic as some assumed.
And if LOST would have crunched, and suikerboys would have picked any effort that was less then they picked now, I think LOST would have reached the POs.
I can understand suikerboys'choice, whichever it was (as there is a valid theory for each of the possibilities), but I don't understand LOST.
Anyway, my loss is less hard this way, so I'm not complainting.

And yes, congrats on HCA. I told you the win of your last game was VERY important. Mabye you believe me now. ;)

They are not your friends; they dispise you. I am the only one you can count on. Trust me.
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198394.16 in reply to 198394.15
Date: 10/16/2011 2:52:07 PM
KV Forever
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Hei, i never said my game wasn't important :)
I literally said it would be an interesting game.

However, i did not agree with the fact that LOST could make up 100 points in 1 game.
And i stay with that opinion ;)

About the loss of Ivan: i don't think anyone saw that one coming. And it cost him dearly: he went from HCA throughout the entire PO's to finishing #3 in the final standings.

The PO's will be fun :)
I don't think there is a clear favorite.

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198394.17 in reply to 198394.16
Date: 10/17/2011 4:20:26 PM
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yes, Ivan realy got unlucky (unless he gambled too much, didn't see his game)

like it is now, LOST made up 50 points.
Lost could have played more motivated, I'm not sure if it would be good for 50 points, but I don't think 25 to 30 extra points would be upsetting. So with some luck he could gain 35 or even 40.

that leaves 10 points to make up. I think we both know games can not be predicted in the 10 point range, so suikerboys could have lost his game with 10 points more then he did now, and if he wasn't scared, and TIE-ed the game, he would probably loose by more, unless he did, but you did as well, but then I take the other option, that if you normalled, he would also loose by more...

I'm not saying it would be a certainty. but with the right tactical options for LOST, and some risky play on suikerboy's side, there would be a 35% chance of LOST making the POs, and I wouldn't go risky in that case.
I did take risks in the past, but that was to improve chances for the title. that's diffrent from taking chances not to reach the POs, if you have no view at the title anyway.

If I didn't tell my tactics in advance, you probably would have said LOST couldn't make up 50 points either. And he didn't even play crunch.
I still regret that actually, I realy would have liked to know how much margin he would have won with a crunch...


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198394.18 in reply to 198394.17
Date: 10/30/2011 11:15:27 AM
Kelmis Spartans
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Eupen Scythe
Final game incoming.

I think KV is top favourite, and I expect him to go back up to BBBL. Season ending was most interesting, with poor BS Ivan being the most infortunate squad lately. He has been on top of the conference all season and that late unfortunate loss cost him a favourable PO spot.

Something disturbs me a little in our II.4 series, I feel the blue conference is much stronger than the red one. Of course, Westmalle BoD and Forever are very strong squads, but besides these, the average level of the red conference seems lower than the blue's one.

That will definetely be a problem for me, I ended up 6th on my first season, 7th this season ... provided the team replacing Saint Servais (which was playing PO last season, and yet they are automatically relegated !) would be very strong I will probably go down to D.3 despite a rather decent squad :s

However, good luck to both KV and bavi, in a fun game with 3 OTs :p