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Repechage: Why European team always start against the African team?

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306438.12 in reply to 306438.1
Date: 03/29/2021 20:31:28
Great Fires
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Do you think is fair the following data?

2 teams of 48 nations in Europe's tournament classify to World cup. 4 more teams classify to repechage. That's about 4% to WC and 8% to repechage.

In Asia and America it's 2 teams of 21 nations goes to WC and 4 to the repechage. That's about 9.5% goes to WC and 19% to repechage.

Africa has only 8 teams. 25% to WC and 50% to repechage.

So, if you think about if it's fair to benefit a little to Europe with the schedule I'm going to say it's far from being fair.

Last edited by Fire Tiger at 03/29/2021 20:32:22

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306438.14 in reply to 306438.12
Date: 03/30/2021 01:31:04
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Primero, te voy a responder en español porque es nuestra lengua.

Yo creo que estás mezclando cosas y tienes un mal concepto de justicia.
Una cosa es la mala estructura de las Copas del Mundo, que creo debería ordenarse de forma distinta en cuanto a los cupos, y entregarle proporcionalmente más cupos a Europa, me parecería justo si se sube la cantidad de clasificados totales, porque tu continente es donde hay más usuarios activos y es claramente más competitivo.

Otra cosa es que estés de acuerdo con que una injusticia se soluciona con otra injusticia para otro. Porque un equipo que llegó por méritos propios a una instancia de repechaje, no tiene por qué competir con una desventaja en relación a otro participante que comienza con (como lo dijeron otros usuarios anteriormente) entusiasmo gratis, mientras el americano y el asiático se desgastan desde el primer partido.

Saludos!

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I think you are mixing things up and you have a bad concept about what is fair.
One thing is the bad conformation of WC, which I think should be ordered differently in terms of slot allocation, and provide proportionally more slots to Europe, it would seem fair to me if the number of total qualifiers is raised, because your continent is where there are more active users and it is clearly more competitive.

Another thing is that you agree that an injustice is solved with another injustice. Because a team that arrived on its own merits to a repechage instance, does not have to compete (always) with a disadvantage in relation to another participant who starts with free enthusiasm (as other users previously said), while American and the Asian team wear out from the first match.

Greetings!

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306438.16 in reply to 306438.14
Date: 03/30/2021 05:51:20
Great Fires
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Buenas, no vi que eras de habla hispana, los logos de los paises no cargan demasiado bien. Tienes razón en que el sistema no está bien y le da desventaja al equipo asiático o americano en la repesca por el simple motivo que Africa no es competitiva para nada. No obstante, recuerdo otro concepto respecto al repechaje, si el entusiasmo es menor al límite en el momento del inicio de la Copa del Mundo y el reset de entusiasmo se queda en ese valor. Lo que quiero decir que puede darte una ligera ventaja en el repechaje pero luego empezar el WC con un entusiasmo menor que el que se enfrenta a Africa en el último partido. No compensa probablemente pero hay que comentarlo también.

Saludos

In English:

Hi, I didn't see that you are from Spanish speaking country, logos don't load very well. You're right about system is not fair and American and Asian teams has disadvantage in repechage because African teams are no longer competitive. However, I want to remember another concept about repechage, if enthusiasm is lower than minimum in the moment of the reset to start the World Cup, no reset is done for your team. What I try to explain is that European team can get a slight advantage in repechage but start the World Cup with lower enthusiasm than the team who played against African team in the last match. Probably don't compensate the repechage teams but is another fact that's important too.

Greetings




Last edited by Fire Tiger at 03/30/2021 05:51:57

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