BuzzerBeater Forums

Suggestions > It's time for players to die

It's time for players to die

Set priority
Show messages by
This Post:
66
321510.14 in reply to 321510.13
Date: 09/25/2023 11:25:48
NakamichiDragons
II.4
Overall Posts Rated:
18111811
Second Team:
Little Computer People
I am turning 50 next year and I often play against others half my age … experience does it 😜

founded in S3 IV.5 (34234) - returned in S28 IV.7 (34515)
This Post:
77
321510.15 in reply to 321510.14
Date: 09/25/2023 14:44:43
cascachosa
II.1
Overall Posts Rated:
237237
Second Team:
IMB Team
I am turning 50 next year and I often play against others half my age … experience does it 😜

Your opponents are the promoters of this suggestion

Cuatro ojos tiene el puente
This Post:
55
321510.16 in reply to 321510.11
Date: 09/29/2023 06:15:37
Durham Wasps
II.2
Overall Posts Rated:
16171617
Second Team:
Sunderland Boilermakers
I would suggest mixing this up with staff members.

I've had complaints about GMs and BBs but forcing them to die seems harsh.

From: GM-Enzo
This Post:
33
321510.17 in reply to 321510.9
Date: 09/29/2023 10:45:13
Santa Eufemia Ducks
III.11
Overall Posts Rated:
471471
Second Team:
Gorriones Rugby Club
In Nov/2022 I submit this suggestion to the BB staff and I am still waiting for an answer

I come with a recurring theme about which several proposals have been heard, the retirement of old players. My approach is to try to make the change require as few lines of code as possible, taking advantage of parameters that already exist and are being computed.

My idea is that from a certain age, say +33 years, a player has a % chance of retiring the following season. That % is influenced by 3 factors:

- His role in the team
- His injury history
- His age

In this way a player who has suffered many injuries in his career will have a tendency to retire younger. Conversely, if he has a big role on the team and gets a lot of minutes, he's likely to extend his career. And for extreme cases the last factor is age so we make sure that the +45 do not continue playing.

How to implement this? I would add one more piece of information in the player info, 'Next season: keep playing / retirement'. Then, in each offseason process, the calculation is made for each veteran player and that information is updated. In case of retirement, he will be able to play in the current season and the next one he will continue in the team but he will not be able to enter the field.

Once this is done, new possibilities are opened for veteran players, I think it would be correct to allow them to be used 1 time as club employees, others will go to the hall of fame and the very old ones can simply disappear by 'death'



This Post:
11
321510.18 in reply to 321510.17
Date: 09/30/2023 03:53:11
AS Barroom Heroes
II.1
Overall Posts Rated:
997997
Second Team:
Lone Pine Productions
In Nov/2022 I submit this suggestion to the BB staff and I am still waiting for an answer

I come with a recurring theme about which several proposals have been heard, the retirement of old players. My approach is to try to make the change require as few lines of code as possible, taking advantage of parameters that already exist and are being computed.

My idea is that from a certain age, say +33 years, a player has a % chance of retiring the following season. That % is influenced by 3 factors:

- His role in the team
- His injury history
- His age

In this way a player who has suffered many injuries in his career will have a tendency to retire younger. Conversely, if he has a big role on the team and gets a lot of minutes, he's likely to extend his career. And for extreme cases the last factor is age so we make sure that the +45 do not continue playing.

How to implement this? I would add one more piece of information in the player info, 'Next season: keep playing / retirement'. Then, in each offseason process, the calculation is made for each veteran player and that information is updated. In case of retirement, he will be able to play in the current season and the next one he will continue in the team but he will not be able to enter the field.

Once this is done, new possibilities are opened for veteran players, I think it would be correct to allow them to be used 1 time as club employees, others will go to the hall of fame and the very old ones can simply disappear by 'death'



33 is WAY too young. Personally, I would prefer that any kind of retiring mechanism be implemented at an age where there are surely no longer of any use to club or national teams (e.g., 45+).

Other than that, pretty much any idea is fine with me, what I don't like is the current situation in which either you keep a player until he is infinity years old, or you have to fire him. I'm not going to fire a guy that's played on my team from age 18 to age 38...

This Post:
11
321510.19 in reply to 321510.18
Date: 09/30/2023 15:11:06
Vilniaus „Vilkai“
II.2
Overall Posts Rated:
5555
Second Team:
Iron Dogs
I don't see how 33 year-old is too old. We're not talking about 100 per cent possibility for a player to retire at such age. A chance of retirement should gradually grow year after year.

In fact, I find SpicyMcHaggis™ suggestion neatly balanced, because it takes into account not only age, but also injury history and role in the team. If implemented, such a system would be much more realistic than current almost-40 years olds having major roles on decent teams. Whether it's possible to implement, that's another question.

From: kecal

This Post:
00
321510.21 in reply to 321510.20
Date: 09/30/2023 16:36:44
Vilniaus „Vilkai“
II.2
Overall Posts Rated:
5555
Second Team:
Iron Dogs
And your expectations to keep him longer are not that realistic, if we're talking about the real game of basketball, as the developers also tend to do. I get that this change would have a major impact on the market value of the older players. But maybe, just maybe, it's the way to go?

This Post:
22
321510.22 in reply to 321510.1
Date: 10/01/2023 13:26:30
WA IS A DUMP
ABBL
Overall Posts Rated:
109109
Second Team:
PMUD A SI AW
Don't know much about the BB code, but my hope is there could be a solution, starting from maybe 60 years old, to introduce a steadily increasing chance for a player to die. I think it will have to be done, sooner or later. Maybe the time is now?

Your thoughts?


People die in their 20's too, could make for some fun seasons!

This Post:
00
321510.24 in reply to 321510.21
Date: 10/02/2023 10:38:08
AS Barroom Heroes
II.1
Overall Posts Rated:
997997
Second Team:
Lone Pine Productions
And your expectations to keep him longer are not that realistic, if we're talking about the real game of basketball, as the developers also tend to do.

Frankly, I struggle to see the connections between BB and the real game of basketball in so many aspects (training, first and foremost, also injuries, etc) that I would most definitely not start out with something that could allow players to more or less randomly decide to not be available anymore in their mid-30s.

I would suggest to not lose sight of the original intentions of this thread, which was to find a way to not overpopulate BB with 60 and older players.

Advertisement