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From: Tattoro

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Date: 12/28/2007 1:58:55 PM
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haha - i got one more ;-)

4 pops in js
3 pops in hnd
2 pops in drv


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Date: 12/28/2007 3:12:16 PM
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Remember, this isn't a "hey, this is how my training went" thread, this is an information-gathering exercise.

If you're going to post your pops, please have some relevant information useful to the thread. Not doing so is little more than clutter to the point at hand.

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Date: 12/29/2007 6:28:41 AM
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Training Jump Shot SG/SF for 1 week, had 5 pops:

24 YO--JS from respectable to strong
18 YO--JS from respectable to strong
22 YO--Handling from respectable to strong
19 YO--JS from average to respectable
19 YO--JS from pitiful to awful

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Date: 12/29/2007 9:36:11 AM
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understood..

but to be fair with to many of the training options training in some cases 3 secondaries as soon as you vary your routine it is going to be near on impossible to tell..

its not like hattrick where x weeks + age + trainer skill = pop in y weeks..

we are all getting pops that are built up of sub levels + fractions....i think if you look back over a season and say I bought player x and he had a total of 65 points (1=atroc - 8=strong etc) and after 4 stamina 3 FT and 7 skill training weeks he now has 75 points then you can gain an understanding as to what sort of player you can shape from lets say age 18-22 or 20-23 depending on your situation.

i think people are just pleased (i am) that pops on younger players are happening more frequently now... as to how and why I think there is a long way to go...

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Date: 12/29/2007 11:54:48 AM
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indeed.

however it might be resourcefull to know in which area's pops occur with a given training, I feel it would be best if the amount of posts limits itself to managers who trained the same thing for at least 5 weeks.

The first pop of a player is prety useless info, since you don't know at what level he started.

If managers had a pop for a player, and then kept training him and got a second pop, noly then might we get some usefull info on how long that specific training takes.
To get a good look at secondary skill training it might take a season, or even 2 to get some usefull info...
I didn't post any info yet, just because I didn't train the same thing long enough already.

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From: Riko
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Date: 12/30/2007 12:48:38 PM
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Training: ball handling
Time: 4 weeks
Position: PG & SG
coach: level 9
popups so far: PG 19y 1. week and 4. week in handling (2 times in 4 weeks)
PG 19y 4.week in handling
PG 19y 3. week in handling
SG 18y just came to team but had popup in handling
SG 22y nothing but was t trained in first week

other popup: zero

From: oeuftete

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Date: 1/4/2008 1:23:53 PM
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Putting these two together...

Pressure
PG:
Trains OD @ ?
Trains ID @ ?
Trains HN @ ?


From BBCharles, "Driving and handling are very, very similar skills, and training either one will now also result in about 80% of training on the other."

... you might infer that Pressure trains Driving as well. I have seen this with a pop this week.

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Date: 1/4/2008 1:28:42 PM
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Hi all,

I am training JumpShot and I have an 18 year old trainee who popped to strong last week and to proficient this week (have a lvl 10 trainer and train PG/SG) I didnt know that was possible?!?



Edited by LA-Floppzzy (1/11/2008 8:36:54 AM CET)

Last edited by Floppzzy at 1/11/2008 8:36:54 AM

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Hi all,

I am training Outside Shot and I have an 18 year old trainee who popped to strong last week and to proficient this week (have a lvl 10 trainer and train PG/SG) I didnt know that was possible?!?


This also happened with an 18-yo Canadian NT player. Given that the training time listed above was 2-3 weeks, along with this major change:

Training for the youngest players will now happen approximately twice as quickly overall, so that we can build up the population of skilled players more rapidly.

... I guess it's not really that surprising.

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