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381.235 in reply to 381.234
Date: 12/29/2007 6:28:41 AM
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Training Jump Shot SG/SF for 1 week, had 5 pops:

24 YO--JS from respectable to strong
18 YO--JS from respectable to strong
22 YO--Handling from respectable to strong
19 YO--JS from average to respectable
19 YO--JS from pitiful to awful

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381.236 in reply to 381.234
Date: 12/29/2007 9:36:11 AM
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understood..

but to be fair with to many of the training options training in some cases 3 secondaries as soon as you vary your routine it is going to be near on impossible to tell..

its not like hattrick where x weeks + age + trainer skill = pop in y weeks..

we are all getting pops that are built up of sub levels + fractions....i think if you look back over a season and say I bought player x and he had a total of 65 points (1=atroc - 8=strong etc) and after 4 stamina 3 FT and 7 skill training weeks he now has 75 points then you can gain an understanding as to what sort of player you can shape from lets say age 18-22 or 20-23 depending on your situation.

i think people are just pleased (i am) that pops on younger players are happening more frequently now... as to how and why I think there is a long way to go...

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Date: 12/29/2007 11:54:48 AM
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indeed.

however it might be resourcefull to know in which area's pops occur with a given training, I feel it would be best if the amount of posts limits itself to managers who trained the same thing for at least 5 weeks.

The first pop of a player is prety useless info, since you don't know at what level he started.

If managers had a pop for a player, and then kept training him and got a second pop, noly then might we get some usefull info on how long that specific training takes.
To get a good look at secondary skill training it might take a season, or even 2 to get some usefull info...
I didn't post any info yet, just because I didn't train the same thing long enough already.

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From: Riko
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Date: 12/30/2007 12:48:38 PM
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Training: ball handling
Time: 4 weeks
Position: PG & SG
coach: level 9
popups so far: PG 19y 1. week and 4. week in handling (2 times in 4 weeks)
PG 19y 4.week in handling
PG 19y 3. week in handling
SG 18y just came to team but had popup in handling
SG 22y nothing but was t trained in first week

other popup: zero

From: oeuftete

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381.240 in reply to 381.1
Date: 1/4/2008 1:23:53 PM
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Putting these two together...

Pressure
PG:
Trains OD @ ?
Trains ID @ ?
Trains HN @ ?


From BBCharles, "Driving and handling are very, very similar skills, and training either one will now also result in about 80% of training on the other."

... you might infer that Pressure trains Driving as well. I have seen this with a pop this week.

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381.241 in reply to 381.240
Date: 1/4/2008 1:28:42 PM
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Hi all,

I am training JumpShot and I have an 18 year old trainee who popped to strong last week and to proficient this week (have a lvl 10 trainer and train PG/SG) I didnt know that was possible?!?



Edited by LA-Floppzzy (1/11/2008 8:36:54 AM CET)

Last edited by Floppzzy at 1/11/2008 8:36:54 AM

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Date: 1/4/2008 1:31:11 PM
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Hi all,

I am training Outside Shot and I have an 18 year old trainee who popped to strong last week and to proficient this week (have a lvl 10 trainer and train PG/SG) I didnt know that was possible?!?


This also happened with an 18-yo Canadian NT player. Given that the training time listed above was 2-3 weeks, along with this major change:

Training for the youngest players will now happen approximately twice as quickly overall, so that we can build up the population of skilled players more rapidly.

... I guess it's not really that surprising.

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381.244 in reply to 381.242
Date: 1/4/2008 1:44:45 PM
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That is correct, that player popped last week to strong and this week to proficient jump shot.

How I wish this will keep happening on a weekly basis...

From: Ragans

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Date: 1/4/2008 2:55:00 PM
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Training One on One SF/PF last week I had 8 pops, this week 7 pops, all trainees quite young....

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