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315391.26 in reply to 315391.23
Date: 8/1/2022 6:41:01 AM
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Il bonus in denaro fortunatamente te lo dà già BB ;) dovrebbe essere circa il 20% dello stipendio del giocatore convocato
Per le donnine... possiamo sicuramente organizzare qualcosa

Mah, si e no, ovviamente chiederò qualche parere ad amici che erano parte del mio staff durante il mio mandato, però preferirei coinvolgere manager della comunità francese. In realtà, secondo me, non servono criteri specifici o altro, se non voglia di fare e voglia di imparare
Per dirti, nel caso vincessi, sarei felice se Locks04 volesse far parte del mio staff, lui stesso ha detto che ho molta più esperienza di lui, se lui avesse voglia di far parte del mio staff penso sia vantaggioso per entrambi
La comunicazione è sicuramente un aspetto fondamentale per coinvolgere i manager della nazionale, comunicazione che deve avvenire sia tramite BB-Mail per contattare più gente possibile e quindi avvicinarla al mondo della nazionale, sia tramite dei post/resoconti dopo ogni partita.
No assolutamente no, anche perché, almeno nella mia esperienza, spesso i manager stessi non sanno di avere per le mani un giocatore interessante per la nazionale, quindi spetta al coach/scouts sentire i vari allenatori.
Poi oh, se qualcuno ha domande o desidera chiedermi un parere su un determinato giocatore o altro rispondo volentieri

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Le bonus cash vous donne heureusement déjà BB ;) devrait être d'environ 20% du salaire du joueur appelé
Pour les petites dames ... nous pouvons certainement organiser quelque chose

Bon, oui et non, évidemment je demanderai conseil à des amis qui ont fait partie de mon staff pendant mon mandat, mais je préférerais impliquer des managers issus de la communauté française. En réalité, à mon avis, vous n'avez pas besoin de critères spécifiques ou quoi que ce soit d'autre, si vous ne voulez pas faire et que vous voulez apprendre
Pour vous dire, si je gagne, je serais content si Locks04 voulait faire partie de mon staff, lui-même a dit que j'ai beaucoup plus d'expérience que lui, s'il veut faire partie de mon staff je pense que c'est bénéfique pour les deux de nous
La communication est certainement un aspect fondamental pour impliquer les dirigeants de l'équipe nationale, communication qui doit se faire à la fois via BB-Mail pour contacter un maximum de personnes et ainsi les rapprocher de l'univers de l'équipe nationale, et via des posts/rapports après chaque match.
Non absolument pas, aussi parce que, du moins d'après mon expérience, souvent les managers eux-mêmes ne savent pas qu'ils ont un joueur intéressant pour l'équipe nationale entre les mains, c'est donc à l'entraîneur/dépisteurs d'entendre les différents entraîneurs.
Alors oh, si quelqu'un a des questions ou souhaite me demander un avis sur un joueur en particulier ou autre chose je serai ravi d'y répondre

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Date: 8/1/2022 6:49:19 AM
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Salut les copains! En cas de victoire de Locks, je ferai partie de son staff et ca va être génial! Du coup, je vais participer un peu au débat ,histoire de varier un peu le style.

Au niveau de l'expérience, je tente un come back après quelques saisons loin des bancs. J'ai quelques participations au BBB au compteur, a l'époque ou je vivais au Maroc (je sais, c'est moins complique... ).

Je suis en contact (très) regulier avec Locks dans le monde reel aussi, et mes interventions seront en concertation avec lui, ou du moins suivant ses principes, a savoir le respect et ... le respect.

Autant le dire tout de suite, j'ai un joueur pré-sélectionné par DunkerJoe. Et autant le dire tout de suite, Locks s'en tape.

A priori, les managers qui seraient invites a faire partie du staff partagent une qualité commune : (wait for it...) le respect.

On sait tous qu'un pays a 252,47 fromages est ingouvernable. Une fédé a 726 manager ... je crois qu'on essayerait juste de discuter constructivement et donner le meilleur de nous-mêmes , sans orgueil mal place. Et moi, je trouve ça vachement cool!

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Date: 8/1/2022 7:04:18 AM
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Pour le plan d'entraînement des joueurs de 21 ans, et bien, difficile de repondre concretement!
Pour les hauts potentiels, voir ça avec le coach des A et les managers. Pour les autres, faire ça au cas par cas, sans flinguer l'interet sportif pour le manager mais en essayant d'avoir l'effectif le plus competitif possible! Ca, c'est de la reponse.

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315391.29 in reply to 315391.25
Date: 8/1/2022 7:11:32 AM
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Hi Boulfe

Yes sure, no problem

I'm sorry, it wasn't my intention to come across in a condescending way. But I disagree with your statement, for example i could have said that the 5 profiles that he suggested aren't good and leave it there, but I was a bit more specific in my "critique". This players doesn't have enough JS, this not enough IS, more RB is needed etc
But I can sort of understand your point of view

-PG is bad cause he doesn't have enough JS to play and exterior tactics, ideally he should have more IS for an interior tactics or since he has high OD you could consider him as a defensive PG, but in that case he needs more Passing, the PG like that is a bit of a half way thing that isn't great for any tactics/position, in italiano si dice che non è nè carne nè pesce
Plus as i said, the fact that Locks added 50 tsp to a standard 55 TSP is a bit misleading, cause the +2 Passing is achievable in 1/2 weeks, meanwhile the +2 JS is around 5 weeks of training

-It's something I learned in my experience in Italy's u21. And since we've been winning medals since s45 I think we can say it works pretty well

-Honestly I'd rather not share my/our ideal profiles, since if I don't win the election here i would be Italy's u21 Head Scout. However let's take Christopher Vautrin (51039842) as an example:
He has low JR and lowish ID so realistically the best thing to train him as is a Guard for interior attacks
Just under 2 seasons of 1on1
A season of OD
Maybe a couple of weeks for PA and by the start of the u21 season you could have:
12 2
14 17
17 8/9
11/12 5/6
6 6
And btw, 5+6 is very good

Thanks for your questions

Last edited by SpongeboNG [ITA NT Coach] at 8/1/2022 7:22:23 AM

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Date: 8/1/2022 7:22:07 AM
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Now, is this an ideal player for my ideal team?
No absolutely not, but you asked me a training plan with an average player, so it's hard to have an ideal player by the time he turns 21
What that being said, I believe this player could do a decent job, keep the ball circulation high, excellent for interior attacks and has decent levels in defense (for the start of the u21 season, he needs to improve them during the u21 season)

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Date: 8/1/2022 7:36:45 AM
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Salut 5majeur!

il y aura des bonus en argent ou bien en courtisanes?
Je milite deja pour un event calin geant à Kaliningrad, pas tres loin de Gdansk, pour le all-star game.

Combien est importante pour vous la communication sur les forum pour que le plus possible de managers s'intéressent à l'équipe nationale ?
J'imagine qu'on a à peu de choses près la même position que Spongebong, à savoir beaucoup de BBmails pour interpeler les managers (qui pensent peut être que l'objectif U21 n'est pas atteignable), une comm importante sur les forums nationaux et la page de l'équipe , et on rajoute une super story écrite par un award wining storyteller sur un autre jeu, pour que l'aventure soit la plus palpitante possible.


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Date: 8/1/2022 8:04:10 AM
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Merci beaucoup à toi et grazie à Sponge

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Date: 8/1/2022 9:41:02 AM
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Hi Boulfe

Yes sure, no problem

I'm sorry, it wasn't my intention to come across in a condescending way. But I disagree with your statement, for example i could have said that the 5 profiles that he suggested aren't good and leave it there, but I was a bit more specific in my "critique". This players doesn't have enough JS, this not enough IS, more RB is needed etc
But I can sort of understand your point of view

-PG is bad cause he doesn't have enough JS to play and exterior tactics, ideally he should have more IS for an interior tactics or since he has high OD you could consider him as a defensive PG, but in that case he needs more Passing, the PG like that is a bit of a half way thing that isn't great for any tactics/position, in italiano si dice che non è nè carne nè pesce
Plus as i said, the fact that Locks added 50 tsp to a standard 55 TSP is a bit misleading, cause the +2 Passing is achievable in 1/2 weeks, meanwhile the +2 JS is around 5 weeks of training

-It's something I learned in my experience in Italy's u21. And since we've been winning medals since s45 I think we can say it works pretty well

-Honestly I'd rather not share my/our ideal profiles, since if I don't win the election here i would be Italy's u21 Head Scout. However let's take Christopher Vautrin (51039842) as an example:
He has low JR and lowish ID so realistically the best thing to train him as is a Guard for interior attacks
Just under 2 seasons of 1on1
A season of OD
Maybe a couple of weeks for PA and by the start of the u21 season you could have:
12 2
14 17
17 8/9
11/12 5/6
6 6
And btw, 5+6 is very good

Thanks for your questions


Merci pour tes réponses détaillées et précises ;)

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