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302019.31 in reply to 302019.29
Date: 11/26/2019 12:31:22 PM
Iwillsurvive
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I have seen lots and lots of broken players in the market, coming out from u21 farms at 22. They are easily recognizable because they go to the market in pairs or triplets. You should know that those are not the type of player a div.1 team wants or needs.


It's true I've seen them as well. They are not lost, but very hard to fix, and most managers (me included) don't want to invest in this chore. I have a friend that likes to fix this kind of players but only Romanian ones.

Anyway Otis is right as well, you don't have any idea of the skills our players have, and to be honest neither do I. So they might be on the right track. To be honest I'm just curious about you training plan, and to compare it to mine.

I made an NT player, but he had no chance of getting into U21 because of my training plan, so that makes me wander if it's possible to make a player that is good in U21 and can also get to NT.

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302019.33 in reply to 302019.32
Date: 11/26/2019 4:09:44 PM
The Defenders
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and yet no asnwers to the 2 questions. will this be the case when the community asks questions and get elected?
or is the "secret training plan" the answer not just to u21 questions but all questions in life?

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302019.36 in reply to 302019.31
Date: 11/26/2019 4:21:04 PM
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iti raspund nu doar tie dar si pt altii ca sa dezmint existenta adevarului absolut.

pe fond echipa de u21, indiferent de natie are nevoie de juc de 18 ani cu tsp 50 la momentul draftului.
noi in ultimii ani ne-am zbatut tare mult cu juc dew 19 ani ca macar aia erau hof si sunt ok pt nt in timp.

nu am scris de draft ca am prea multe pe cap.
anul trecut nu s-a tras jucator peste 6'8 nici de 18 si nici de 19 (?!) care sa fie pe interior.
daca te uiti adversarii nsotri au juc de 21 de ani cu salariu 50k. am dat un turc la u21 care a jucat finala de turneu de consolare si salariul echivalent pe teren era de 50-60k.
anul acesta s-a tras un singur hof de 18, pivot, plus mai multi mvp dar culmea, nimeni sub 6'9. toti spre pivoti. apoi am descoperit unul de 6'5 care e sf. cel maii mic antrenabil de mvp sau hof. evident o sa ne uitam si la superstars dar deja e prea mult afara ariei nt.

deci, ce iti trebuie e juc de 18 crescuti mono. e balarie ce zice el fiindca nu poti juca doar aparare fara pase sau fara atac exterior. fix asta zicea ca a facut jokeru ultimii ani. in timp ce toti insista cu elasticul pt beneficiul poropriului club el a trecut pe passing ca sa avem macar un pg. si eu am facut la fel cand am avut juc similar.

iar in afara de asta, dupa cum in mod dezamagitor am descoperit, multi useri nu vand sau nu raspund al emsaje sa vanda, lasa juc in paragina enantrenati cu lunile. de aia ne rugam de toti userii fie pe primul sau ultimul loc in lgia sa bage in draft. daca nu pt ei macar pt nt ca juc lor sa fie plasati apoi fiindca inteleg logica in spatele sugestiei noi.

nu vreau sa arat cu degetul dar romania a tras 3 jucatori all time great in decurs de 2 ani si niciunul nu a fost antrenat dintre acei trei. ei au 26-27 de ani, macar al 4-lea a prins nt macar de consolare. nu zic cine sunt ca pot fi gasiti usor.


deci asta e solutia. gasim juc de 18 care sa primeasca 3 sezoane intregi de antrenament iar in al 4-lea sa fie finisati. si fiindca acuma vem suficienti dedicati antrenamentului putem antrena juc si care nu vor prinde nt. dar macar vor ajunge sa fie rezerve de prima liga si creem lichiditate de juc romani in piata. acum gasesti numai carpe de peste 30 de ani care n-ar fi vandabili nici la jumatate de cat se cere pe ei.