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Abolish home court advantage entirely

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306520.6 in reply to 306520.4
Date: 09/22/2020 09:49:58
Vilkiukai
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You're overestimating how random results would become without the presence of HCA, and conversely underestimating GDP and effort.


It is just an example, but i believe the numbers might be close. Also no need to estimate GDP and effort, because they are used with HCA also, so only the changed variable in this case HCA should be estimated.

By that I mean, if you're the best team in your conference, but have to play away against the best team in the other conference, that really hurts one's chances of having HCA when the two teams meet again in the finals.


It can happen both ways with equal chances, overall there is no advantage if looking from farrer perspective. And from closer it might let weaker team win/promote if draw is lucky, creating more interesting game.

B3 is another example, you might get an easy road schedule, or you might have to play all of the top teams away and risk missing the 32 even as one of the best teams in the world.


Totally agree, B3 is not fair, spread of deviation is toogreat. Exactly what would happen in results, not opponents if getting rid of HCA in normal leagues.

PS: I never even said anything about my personal experiences with HCA so I don't know why you're going on about my team suddenly becoming worse if it didn't exist.


Nothing personal, it was just example. Overall worse team loses. And there is so much stuff to do, because in most cases you know weeks before playoffs you wont have HCA for example, so there is time to preprare for that. HCA is not the only thing which makes lose finals.





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306520.7 in reply to 306520.6
Date: 09/22/2020 17:28:27
Le Cotiche
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removing HCA gives an incentive to save money during the season and buy after ASG. i don't like it

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Date: 09/23/2020 04:38:41
Kira Kira Koseki
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Easy fix, we just drop down to a four team play-off format. Could even make both rounds Bo3 on the condition that game 3 of the semi-final (on Sunday) was treated like PL/B3 for weekly player minute purposes.

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Date: 09/23/2020 10:15:10
Le Cotiche
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not sure making the season feel useless for more teams would make the game better

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Date: 09/23/2020 23:22:15
Kira Kira Koseki
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I don't follow the logic. Those that can't realistically win the title will naturally be battling for a top four position so that they can avoid the relegation series. Besides, didn't you just imply that it would be better to reward regular season success and discourage play-off buy-ups? Can't have that if we keep the eight team play-off, even if HCA stays intact.

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306520.12 in reply to 306520.1
Date: 09/24/2020 15:51:31
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Date: 10/04/2020 09:18:37
Kira Kira Koseki
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Well I clearly overestimated how popular the idea of not having home court advantage would be, though it does come as a shock to me given that right now, a typical season with HCA boils down to "I'll TIE this away game since I'm sure to lose it, but this home game is one I should win."

And that, in my opinion, has made the regular season campaign more boring and predictable than it otherwise could be. Whilst I'd still prefer no advantage, the idea of making HCA weaker is a compromise worth considering. Home court is statistically noticeable in real life, though not nearly as strong as you might think. 2.47 points, based on data spanning from 17-'18 up to the point where Covid shut down '19-'20.

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Date: 10/04/2020 10:57:12
Kira Kira Koseki
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But that has more to do with the relatively wide spread in ability between this season's best ABBL team and the worst, as opposed to the strength of HCA being realistic. Even if there isn't an unanimous agreement regarding how many points HCA is worth on this game, I think everyone can agree that it's way more than the 2.47 point average from the last three years of NBA play (excluding the Orlando bubble since that's neutral court).

As an additional counterpoint, I suspect that last season's ABBL had a much lower percentage of away wins, as the entire league that season was fairly competitive excluding 3 'cupcakes'.

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