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Whatever you decide just don't buy top potential players for training. My advice to you is not to do that.
If you buy high potential drafters and decide to train them and save money to buy top players when you finish training of those drafters, you need to know that in 2027 you will have a problem because you WILL BE PUNISHED for training players for years by losing games because of your team's poor stamina in relation to opponents who do not train players, but can do stamina training.

My advice to you is that it's not worth losing your temper because too many things on this game are designed to make us leave the game and not to stay.

Please delete the last sentence of your post … you should not negatively influence others because of your own dissatisfaction.

Did I said anything wrong or not true?

This game has 13946 active managers, 22 days ago it had 14235. It's decrease of 289 people... 2%

Where is it going? Do You think this game has any future if it keeps going this way? There's more negative things which forces us to leave it than positive which entice us to stay and play it.

Stupid things happen every few days. Each game has a different GE for substitutions. Imagine that one of your key players needs to play 13 and a half minutes to get a full training in a scrimmage game that you win by 80-90 points. But he only played 12 minutes as a second substitute. In a normal game, he would play 17-19 minutes. That's the last thing that happened to me, for example. And such stupid things happen every few days. That's why I'm not surprised why this game is losing players who came after a strong advertising campaign. There is nothing to keep them here. These numbers are the reality of this game, and I'm afraid it's only going to get worse and worse. People might think I'm a hater, but I'm just opening people's eyes.

Did I said anything wrong or not true?

Yes, because the original question was „best way to start?“, your comment „better not to start!“ is no answer to that question.

Last edited by LA-flaterik123 at 7/28/2023 3:45:37 PM

If you buy high potential drafters and decide to train them and save money to buy top players when you finish training of those drafters, you need to know that in 2027 you will have a problem because you WILL BE PUNISHED for training players for years by losing games because of your team's poor stamina in relation to opponents who do not train players, but can do stamina training.

Sorry to fuel your anger but nah, what kinda nonsense is that. Get yourself a level 3 gym and a level 6 or 7 nutritionist and you'll see your player's stamina pop without even needing to train. Stamina receives cross training as well, so stamina will definitely not be much of a problem. You also don't really need proficient or prominent stamina unless you're planning to use 7 man lineups to compete.

Tho I do agree that a starting team shouldn't buy high potential trainees to train. After all they're not stable enough financially. High potential trainees are more expensive, hence they won't get a proper return on investment out of them, especially when they can't train them at full efficiency.

If your sole purpose on BB is going to be to hate on the game and tell newer users to not join, please leave.

No one wants you to “open people’s eyes” by being negative and ruining others experience. It’s annoying and distasteful. If you dislike the game as much as you say, stop playing. It’s not that hard.

That is not true. Stamina progress is minor with a nutritionist of the highest level. That's what people with experience said. I have had a level 3 or 4 nutritionist all the time for years. No player has ever improved in stamina. It only helped that they didn't lose skills often. But once in a few years it happens that a player loses a skill. With the highest level of nutritionist, it happens once every few years that a player increases his stamina. Cross training for 3 and a half years did not bring any pop up in stamina, and I have gym lvl 3.

I paid hundreds of thousands for nutritionist salaries and it didn't bring me anything. I have been paying a lvl 6 sports psychologist for years, I have paid millions for it and what happened when some players played 110 minutes for the first time? Their game shape dropped from 9 to 7, as happens to those who do not have a sports psychologist. I would understand if it drops from 9 to 8 because of a sports psychologist, but 7 is too much for that level and price of a sports psychologist.

But OK. I think it pays to have a sports psychologist and that having one brings good results compared to those who don't. I just think that when some players play 110 minutes once in a few seasons, that drop in game shape must be smaller.

It is fair to them that they know what awaits them in the future. No lies, no deception. Just the bare truth. New players deserve to know what to expect in 2027. when they will be near the end of the training.

You need to retain new managers with the truth, not with lies. The truth is the only way to keep new managers and to prevent this decline in users.

Your opinion is not omnipotent factual truth. There are hundreds if not thousands of managers who train effectively, hit stamina training a few times in the process, and avoid the hurdles that you find unachievable. Perhaps you just never considered that your way is not the only way.

I have had a level 3 or 4 nutritionist all the time for years. No player has ever improved in stamina. It only helped that they didn't lose skills often. But once in a few years it happens that a player loses a skill. With the highest level of nutritionist, it happens once every few years that a player increases his stamina. Cross training for 3 and a half years did not bring any pop up in stamina, and I have gym lvl 3.

Some times, reading helps. Let me quote my previous reply:

Get yourself a level 3 gym and a level 6 or 7 nutritionist and you'll see your player's stamina pop without even needing to train.

Stamina drop only stops completely when you hire a level 6 nutritionist. So of course you're not getting results with a level 3-4 one, no matter how many decades you have them. Did it occur to you that you're 2-3 levels below the minimum level I mentioned? With a level 3 gym and a level 6 nutritionist I've even seen instances where my players stamina pop twice in a season.

Last edited by BuzzRBeater at 7/29/2023 12:30:55 PM