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Maybe try to:
1. Check staff salary-after many weeks salaries are very high, you can go with some minimal staff for few weeks
2. Think about arena's infrastructure = level reduction (I think you recieve back some of the money back but I have never do that.

I agree with you, managing an HGL project is more important than a medal.

I have a proposal: teams like mine, who buy and sell drafted players but are also coached by others, have an advantage over those who decide not to trade.
I suggest creating a parallel postseason, in addition to the traditional tournament, for only the teams that don't trade.

Let me explain:
Regular Season matches will be the same for all teams.
At the end of the regular season, the traditional tournament continues as usual, while the teams that don't trade also compete in single-elimination matches.
I don't know if this would create additional work for the commissioner, but I think it would be interesting for those who don't trade to win a medal, too.

I hope that you would get 1 (or even 2) gems from the draft, who you could sell, so that you would still be able to compete in the regular league but still get some good income. Would that be realistic regarding your league position and draft tokens available?

In terms of draft tokens, yes... But league position this season (picking as 12th team) would require a miracle. Usually in a league with no bots and many experienced managers, no gems are left at that point... But thank you for your message, I appreciate any attempts to help. :)

Maybe try to:
1. Check staff salary-after many weeks salaries are very high, you can go with some minimal staff for few weeks
2. Think about arena's infrastructure = level reduction (I think you recieve back some of the money back but I have never do that.

Thank you for your response..
I've considered both options... Problem with first is that as I'm only climbing maybe 10-50K towards plus per week after massive rearrangement, it can take 10-20 weeks to reach levels where I can buy acceptable level new staff. And having 1 level coach as HG team is dreadful... Also, having lousy doctor as a HG team who hasn't afford to lose best of his players for a long time, without the possibility of upgrading the doctor if needed (due to being on minus in $), isn't a tempting option...

Also I don't have trustworthy knowledge, if I would even lose money by firing my PR (now level 4 at $16K), because level of attendance income is dramatic in terms of what's left under the line after cost and income are being calculated...

As for suggestion 2., I have some of those to sell. You will lose 50% of the purchase value if you do that, I have done that before. However, I'd prefer to save it as a last option, because I couldn't wreck my whole team by having all players listed...

After 2 weeks under 500 K€, all your players will be on sale

i don't know how to solve that, my first idea is .... that you have too much players ... so difficult to find a good way which match with your finance and with your 100 draftees goal

I wonder if any of you know for sure, that is the practice still in use, that you get a BBMail from BB staff to inform you, that if you don't correct situation in 2 weeks, that will happen, and only after that 2 weeks "timer" would activate, and after that further 2 weeks (from the sending of official BBMail) they all would be listed at the price of $1?

I agree with you, managing an HGL project is more important than a medal.

I have a proposal: teams like mine, who buy and sell drafted players but are also coached by others, have an advantage over those who decide not to trade.
I suggest creating a parallel postseason, in addition to the traditional tournament, for only the teams that don't trade.

Let me explain:
Regular Season matches will be the same for all teams.
At the end of the regular season, the traditional tournament continues as usual, while the teams that don't trade also compete in single-elimination matches.
I don't know if this would create additional work for the commissioner, but I think it would be interesting for those who don't trade to win a medal, too.

Thank you for your response, it's interesting to hear your take on this. It's a very complicated subject (if we want to consider all aspects of it), but I do agree/feel that teams that do trade players do have an advantage over teams that don't trade.

This is partly why I created "a salary benefit"-comparison (a separate post, that hasn't yet been calculated and published for Season 3), so that people can check which teams are receiving "salary/training benefit" that way.

And all this also depends on where we draw a line (or would draw a line, if it would need to be determined which team is "buying and selling team").
For instance, demars's and my team are technically teams that have re-purchased player(s) in their teams, but their salary is $226-227 per week, and our salary benefit number is therefore standing at minus $.

I haven't had enough time to think that suggestion of yours (if it would work as is), but in a couple of days that I've had time to think about it now and then, my initial thought is that if we would divide teams into "trading" and "non-trading" teams, it would be better also to have separate Regular Seasons for both kind of teams, and not only separate playoffs (also because otherwise non-drafting teams would face "drafting teams" during RS as well, and results of those matches would likely affect who would be allowed to enter playoffs in the first place).

This on the other hand would create numerous challenges, including that
1. there wouldn't be even number of teams in such leagues, as there aren't that many "trading teams" in HGL currently
2. how do we define "trading team" fairly (one option being a salary benefit-value, but even that's not 100% perfect)
3. it would create somewhat confusing (at least to me) double playoff-system; I'll explain better what I mean below. Having separate leagues altogether of course wouldn't have this confusing aspect built in it (at least from my point of view, however, it would create more work and be problematic from the standpoint of unequal league sizes and matches/season values)
4. yes, it would add some more work if "separate, parallel Playoffs" would run simultaneously.

I assumed that you meant, that let's say out of 16 teams 4 were "trading teams", and based on ORSR-rankings, best "non-drafting teams" would be "let to play" in "a separate Playoffs for non-trading teams". So in this case all teams would be allowed to play in playoffs, as 12 participate to playoffs.
But for the sake of an example, what if there would be 5 teams that would be counted as "drafting teams" and we'd have 16 teams in HGL - there would be only 11 participating to Playoffs, in which case our playoff system couldn't be utilized as is. (Yes, I guess technically it would be possible to implement an another rule that states how in that case playoff participants would be determined.)

But while this reply might seem like a very direct, this is just my style (especially if I don't have time to "soften" things), and like I said, it's nice to see you've also noticed there's a difference in a difficulty level, depending on how beneficially you sell and buy back your previously owned players... :)

My suggestion was clearly an idea, but I don't know how many teams are making trades and how many aren't.

I have a question: how many teams in HGL have at least one re-signed player on their roster and how many don't?

I have one player who trained elsewhere for 2 seasons.

I have ONE and he is right now 71 years-old. His salary is 226 $
(historically, I sold him around 32 at 110 000 $ of salary and took him back 4 seasons later with a salary of 60 000 if my memory's still effective.
He's not playing anymore for 30 seasons.

My suggestion was clearly an idea, but I don't know how many teams are making trades and how many aren't.

I have a question: how many teams in HGL have at least one re-signed player on their roster and how many don't?

You´d get an idea what was the situation on Season 2, when you take a look at these posts:
Compilation-post for Season 2 (327516.67)
Actual salary benefit-post for Season 2 (327516.4)

As one can see, for example only total salary benefit value for that season would be used to rate teams to either trading and non-trading teams (which would likely be closest to fair compromise in such classification system), it could be easily manipulated to your benefit if one has sold a player on his prime and then buys him back (you can see a good example of this in the case of Elan Demars; I do not try to suggest demars had this purpose when he bought back his player, but it's a good example of what means some could use to manipulate that value to get to "parallel organic Playoffs").

On the other hand, if only currently benefiting transfers, in other words transfers which has a plus value before them, would count (when estimating if team currently receives salary benefit), then we would eliminate that possibility for manipulation (even if transfer wouldn't have been made for the purpose of manipulating that value).

In that case, every team that has any player in their roster that benefits them, compared to the moment of when he was first sold, would be on that list/would be noted having a plus value on salary benefit comparison (even if they´d have previously purchased players that lower the total salary benefit value significantly; see Elan Demars's example above).

However, using salary benefit number for purpose of parallel Playoffs has many ´what if's´, such as at which given time should that number be recorded/used, or that should it be used multiple times per season, such as prior to season start, and prior to playoffs to ensure not "unjust" changes have occurred, in terms of being eligible to "organic playoffs".

Again, for me personally, the concept of parallel Playoffs remain a bit confusing and it does have another challenges as well as I tried to point out in previous post - separate leagues would work on paper, but as we can see, there are not that many trading teams (exept that there are some more when Season 3 is concerned, but not like 50% of teams receive salary benefit.
It is also worth noting, that salary benefit post is not an automatically updated list, and while I find this information very interesting and am looking forward to finding time to update it for Season 3 as well - please someone remind me if it looks like Season 3 salary benefit post hasn't been made by me before new player salaries will update- it's still something I've had to shovel further down on my to do-list as it's quite arduous process which in practice takes quite long to finalize given the large amount of transferred players).

@all HGL managers:

Starting from now, please inform me on official threads or by BBMail of any changes that take place in your roster, especially if it is one of the players in your salary Top8 (but it's a good practice to do it in every case).
Please note that others won't be able to see data on players that you have fired.

Following this procedure benefits me (and all others). It does make certain team Top8-salary calculations, transfer post updates (note: I do also add fired players-information there; if you don't provide that, I don't have chance to keep updating it correctly), team Top8 sarary changes during season-following, and some duties concerning roster check more straightforward for me if I have all the information at hand.

Last edited by Wagner at 1/10/2026 5:01:47 AM

Season 2 and 3 transfers-post is now published, here: (328546.14).

Season 4 preparations will begin (very) soon, so all, stay tuned and please be prepared to arrange all your Season 4 Regular Season matches before HGL Season starts on January 26th.

It will be very likely that we'll be able to add a 17th team to our team roster for Season 4, but I'll have to verify couple of things with LennuK. who has kindly created a schedule for us.

This would mean that:
- we would play 3 Regular Season matches per one week (most likely on game week 2)
- on each game day, one of our 17 teams would be given "bye", meaning that they don't play on that day, because we would have an uneven number of teams playing each RS Round.

As for HGL Season 4 preparations, as mentioned, please be ready to act soon (arrange matches and reply to my and other HGL managers' requests).
As usual, let's do that on newly established Official Threads (as soon as I'll publish Season 4 Threads).

Again, as usual, please allow me to create about 15 first posts on both Official Threads (main and scores) before you start replying on those Threads.


Last edited by Wagner at 1/11/2026 7:01:56 AM