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I have ONE and he is right now 71 years-old. His salary is 226 $
(historically, I sold him around 32 at 110 000 $ of salary and took him back 4 seasons later with a salary of 60 000 if my memory's still effective.
He's not playing anymore for 30 seasons.

He needs to start warming up, as I received a request from my two oldies but goldies, mr. Rimpiläinen and Mönkö - both 78 years old - that they want to face Esnard on next season. xD Why do I recommend warming up? Mönkö in his first match of this (regular BB) season played 3 minutes, and got immediately an infection of back and was out for 14 days. It's tough to jump straight to a hardwood from a rocking chair, they say. :)

It'd be easy to implement, we can agree that we play them on, for instance, SF position (to make as less harm for the other teammates as possible?), do not set them highly skilled substitutes, and other than that, play our optimal lineup... It's a good offer, I have one substitute (Mönkö from bench), but you have a 7 years age advantage :D

Last edited by Wagner at 1/11/2026 10:17:55 AM

I made a mistake abiout this 17th game. I wanted to talk about the 16th (and last, if we are 17), but it takes 17 days...

I also misread your first post. Consider that your schedule is right :)

I made a mistake abiout this 17th game. I wanted to talk about the 16th (and last, if we are 17), but it takes 17 days...

I also misread your first post. Consider that your schedule is right :)

Thanks for a quick response and checking those days!

Yes, I think these days would set up correctly, but nobody (in addition to LennuK.) has yet viewed the actual match schedule, which I have here (as he sent it to me).

Do any of you guys have a foolproof and easy and quick (yes, a lot to ask) manual method which you could use to check/verify league schedule for correctness?
And does someone want to take a look at it?

If so, please let me know and I can post it on this Season 3 Thread.

My suggestion was clearly an idea, but I don't know how many teams are making trades and how many aren't.

I have a question: how many teams in HGL have at least one re-signed player on their roster and how many don't?

Now that the season 2 and 3 transfer post got published, it should give all of us better overview of that situation: (328546.14).

However, changed salary values for Season 3 (for teams trading), and Season 3 salary benefit post still haven't been corrected and published, respectively.
It would be important to get it done during this season, when it's still easier process and doesn't require reconstructing teams top8 etc., so I'd have to try to find time for that too.

But once again, does anyone want to re-check the newly AI built (and LennuK. verified) schedule (not the days I already sent, but the actual schedule with team abbreviations) for 17 teams?

Or perhaps not, meaning that we should just proceed ASAP and trust it's 100% correct?

Last edited by Wagner at 1/11/2026 12:44:24 PM

Further update on Season 4 preseason process:
As mentioned,
- possible new team joining, if we can accept him with this short notice - final decision on hold (but I'd err strongly on the positive side, in terms of being able to accept him).
For me it's totally fine and it´s great to welcome new team, as long as I can be sure AI-created schedule works as intended.

- Season 4 Threads have now been created, but content lacking due to this arduous seasonal process of "moving" to different thread, updating all data and links, etc. Please mention if you spot some faulty information, links, etc.
It is also beneficial, if not rather necessary, to try to consider how to potentially lessen the work included in season to season transitional process, as it's not on an enjoyable/optimal level in a long run.

- I have not yet started adding challenging responsibilities to this new schedule, as I'm kind of waiting to see if anyone else wants to take a look at schedule first, and also waiting for LennuK.'s answer whether or not he wants/has time to set up those challenging responsibilities ("CR") to newly built schedule.

- On the other hand, it's kind of tricky to edit any official posts properly for this season, when complete decision on 16/17 teams issue hasn't been made (again, I'd be very confident that we should be able to invite him as 17th team).

- It would ve very beneficial to be able to get started in match organizing process soon.

- As a reminder to all; now that we don't observe Daylight Savings Time, match time will change to 2.30PM EET (Eastern European Time) for Season 4 Regular Season.

Last edited by Wagner at 1/11/2026 12:59:15 PM

I made a mistake abiout this 17th game. I wanted to talk about the 16th (and last, if we are 17), but it takes 17 days...

I also misread your first post. Consider that your schedule is right :)

Now that I checked out once again schedule provided by LennuK., it appears to me that I was wrong, as there seems to be 17 Rounds. I somehow thought it's the same logic (1 game less than there are teams) when you play with even number of teams, but of course when 1 team rests per Round, it takes longer to complete whole schedule, hence 17 weeks for RS.

So I need to edit that schedule once again.. I guess it would be corrected (able to finish RS in same time frame) if we add a third match also to, say, third week of RS - right?

Last edited by Wagner at 1/11/2026 6:35:18 PM

Nobody has seemed necessary to reply to my suggestion of checking out the new schedule for Season 4 (which was triggered by very likely addition of 17th team for Season 4), so I'm still waiting for this day if someone wants to do that, as it goes well in line with LennuK.'s schedule as he mentioned he'd have time later today to undertake the marking of challenge responsibilities to new schedule-project, therefore we couldn't publish new schedule before that either, so we do not lose time here.
Having said that, unless somebody wants to look at the new schedule (which I can send here on S3 thread, like mentioned) and find out problems with it, or if LennuK. seems necessary to run a manual double-check on it today and would find problems for it), we could accept 17th team to HGL Season 4.

Practically I find it highly likely that we can add his team for Season 4, so I have made preparations having that in mind. (While Season 4 threads seem empty, content is actually mostly finished already, but there isn't much point to publish them as schedule isn't yet published and addition of 17th team isn't quite 100% confirmed).

If everything goes as planned, and no reports of faulty schedule (which again nobody but LennuK. and myself have seen so far; if you want to see it, reply to this ASAP and I'll send it here on official thread!) are made, I'm looking forward to publish new schedule with challenge responsibility markings on Season 4 Scores Thread likely tomorrow.
That of course means, that we can and should start Regular Season match organizing process as soon as schedule is published on Season 4 thread.

Here is an updated table on the countries' stats participating in the HGL after season 3. The table after season 2 is found here: (328546.57). Only regular season games are counted towards this statistic.

Rank__Country__NoT_GP__W___L___PF/G___PA/G__PD/G__WLR
1______Slovakia____1___45___43___2___112.5____86.5____+26.0___0.956
2______Argentina___1___15___14___1___117.5____80.9____+36.7___0.933
3______Poland_____1___45___33___12___107.9____98.4____+9.5___0.733
4______Sweden____1___30___22___8____99.1_____93.6____+5.5____0.733
5______Bosnia i H.__1___30___19___11____92.3_____85.5____+6.8___0.633
6______France_____3___135___79___56__103.1____96.9____+6.2____0.585
7______Italy_______2___60___32___28___89.7_____84.8____+4.9___0.533
8______Finland_____2___90___45___45___100.0____97.7____+2.3___0.500
9______Lithuania___1___15___7____8____103.9____105.9____-1.9___0.467
10______Spain_____1___45__15____30___89.1_____94.0____-4.9____0.333
11_____Latvia_____1___45___15___30___99.3_____104.5____-5.1____0.333
12_____Australia___2___45___12___33___84.8_____112.8____-28.0___0.267
13_____Estonia____1___30___6____24___97.9_____107.2____-9.4____0.200
14_____Uruguay___1___45___9____36___90.9_____105.4____-14.6___0.200
15_____USA_______3___45___8___37___85.3_____111.5___-26.2____0.178

Bosnia i H.=Bosnia and Herzegovina

NoT=Number of distinct teams, GP=Games played, W=Wins, L=Losses, PF/G=Points scored for per game, PA/G=Points scored against per game, PD/G=Scoring difference per game, WLR=Win-Loss-Ratio

Countries in italic font have currently no active teams in HGL

Last edited by LA-LennuK at 1/12/2026 6:56:31 PM

Better than USA, not so bad, jaja.

@all:
I'm looking forward to start adding content to Season 4 Official Threads very soon, after which I ask all of you to proceed with Pickup (PU) match organizing process soon, because there will be only about 12-13 days before Season 4 begins and all Regular Season matches need to be organized before Season starts!

For those of you to whom go through this process for the first time, I remind that we don't have that much time to send and accept challenges; that time means that you need to have added those match links to your own box score post (that you will create for your team, on Season 4 Thread, by replying to my team box score post), and I need to have verified well before Season 4 starts that all match details are correct.

To quote my earlier message, I now confirm that HGL Season 4 Official Threads are now full of typical HGL information, mostly on typical locations (only some minor changes from Season 3) such as schedule, and an instructive posts on how match organizing process goes.

As a match organizing/off-season memory refresher, one can read for instance:
"What everyone who participates to Season 4 of HGL needs to do now" (329502.13)
and announcement "We're ready to organize all Regular Season matches for HGL Season 4!" (329502.2)

I want to remind and ask everyone participating to HGL Season 4, that please proceed immediately with creating your own box score post on HGL Scores Season 4 Official Thread, by responding to this message: (329502.20) and then sending correct match challenges to your opponents (that you see from HGL Season 4 schedule on HGL Scores thread, as usual).

We have only 12 days before Season 4 starts to complete the whole process including verifying matches, so there's no time to waste.

(Don't wonder where my challenges are - I won't send them yet as I'm being way too exhausted now, working for this project for the last 8-9 hours straight.. So likely tomorrow you'll see some match challenges from me on your BBMail/friendlies-page.

Important note on organizing Season 4 matches:

I have already noticed two matches being organized at a wrong time, so in the case this would be a wider problem, I remind you all again that you use official designated match time for each team (official local time, meaning your local time) when organizing matches.

This will change for 1 hour from season to another, depending on Daylight Savings Time-cycles.
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When DST is not observed in EET time zone when season begins, Official HGL match time is your local equivalent of 14.30PM EET (Normal Time) which is the case for Season 4.
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When DST is observed in EET time zone when season begins, match time is 15.30PM EET DST (Daylight Savings Time).

I quote my Announcement posts:

For each team an Official Local Time is provided, which they use when sending PU match invitations. Found (before team name), here: (329502.12).
Use only this time given to your team specifically, and nothing else, when organizing (also when accepting!) Pickup matches!

Let's take one example that I saw:
- VPO-EOS is organized at 15.30 a.k.a. 3.30PM EET; this is 1 hour too late, it needs to be reorganized.
Note: if you have sent more match requests at that faulty time, please cancel them now so tokens are not lost.

- when either of team takes a look at above link (with match times), they notice this time is not correct, as they should send and accept challenges only at that time, that is designated time for their team:

- in other words, LennuK. (EOS) should send and accept Season 4 challenges at 02.30PM (and see those accepted matches being played at that time, when they look at their teams' "regular BB schedule" or friendly matches-page, in where pending match offers can be seen).
For VPO on the other hand, this local time that they see in the friendly matches-page (and eventually on regular BB schedule) would be 01.30PM, because they are 1 hour behind EET time zone.

Example:
When I send challenge, I send it on Season 4 at 2.30PM my time (which is time that I see on post #12 that is linked above and below).
When for example VPO sees it in his friendly matches page, this time appears to him as 01.30PM, which would be correct, because
A) this is the time that he sees in this table (and in participating teams-posts): (329502.12)
B) it's also logical because Italy is 1 hour behind EET time zone, which is a reference time zone in HGL.
(Your local time differences compared to EET time zone are represented in participating teams-posts on both threads, 3rd posts, before the team name and = sign; however, use time on that table, or table linked on A) above when you organize matches.

Always ask if you're unsure of the time, so that we don't end up losing lots of tokens.

Last edited by Wagner at 1/14/2026 6:28:51 AM