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HGL PO 3. (SF) round, season 5:

Best collective performance of the evening

Point: 96 : Rajdersi
Defense: 75 : Virtus Portici
Tot. Rebound: 54 : Vilniaus „Vilkai“
Off. Rebound: 24 : Vilniaus „Vilkai“
Assist: 27 : Rajdersi
Steal: 6 : Rajdersi
Block: 11 : Virtus Portici

Personal best performances of the evening

Point: 28 : M. Komosa (Rajdersi)
Tot. Rebound: 17 : V. Danevicius (Vilniaus „Vilkai“)
Off. Rebound: 9 : V. Danevicius (Vilniaus „Vilkai“)
Assist: 9 : E. Favaro (Virtus Portici)
Steal: 3 : L. Kornatowski (Rajdersi)
Block: 7 : E. Favaro (Virtus Portici)

The shooter: M. Komosa (Rajdersi): 4 Three points scored

The best performer: P. Drosio (Rajdersi) & A. Di Natale (Virtus Portici): Rating: 17,0

Triple double: -

Last edited by GM-LennuK at 7/12/2026 3:08:36 PM

HGL Season 5 Playoffs:

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PO Round 3 (semifinals; 4 teams play): Sunday, July 12th , 2026 RAJ vs KKS invitation sent

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Hello Paul George,
Match links are supposed to teams' own box score post be way before matches begin, in fact immediately when match link is available.

It was played yesterday, and link is still missing.

As I've mentioned, "regular HGL manager" does not have that many tasks to take care of, and it's not preferable to not do things as they're supposed to be done.

I understand that real life gets in the way sometimes, yet I will still repeat the same thing, that I hope we don't have to start planning to apply some rule changes in order to get managers to do certain things on time. (I have several options in mind to solve this by penalties, but so far I've only been noting managers).

I don't plan to be rude in any way here though, I'm just direct in my approach (as that's what you guys have already probably used to expect), especially as this seems to have been repeated by several managers already.

Last edited by Wagner at 7/13/2026 2:36:27 AM

Hello,

I can only apologise.
Post updated(semifinal + final).

Hello,

I can only apologise.
Post updated(semifinal + final).

Thank you. If in any way possible, please keep on updating them a bit quicker in future.

Last edited by Wagner at 7/13/2026 5:20:49 PM

Stihija - Vilniaus link

(139720918)

Last edited by Pihija at 7/14/2026 7:06:25 AM

I have just retired 3 original players, Wagner.

They are:

Moeaktola Dunn (53633879) $5,373 salary

Kostya Regis (53633880) $10,820 salary

Charilaos Mikedis (53633878) $3,301 salary

TOTAL SALARIES: $19,494

Thank you.


NOTE: This will also much more accurately show the average age of my young team as the 3 players retired were 38, 35 and 38 respectively.

My adjusted team age avergae is now 22.3

Thanks for info. You'll always notice time is flying, when you see BB players (for some reason, K. Regis being one of those players for me) retire.

@VPO:
You still don't have a match link in your box score post, even though Final match is finished.
I have had this request to do so, in HGL Playoff-post, already for a long time, since Tuesday I believe.


@ all HGL/HGL-PL managers:
Possible rule addition #1:

This again makes me think it might be necessary to add some kind of warning and/or direct penalty-system to HGL (which would be partly recurring from Season to Season, in the case of warning&penalty-system), like yellow cards in football (soccer) matches from one match to another.
This is because it has already been the case for many teams in this Seasons' Playoffs, and the problem has not only occurred with VPO.

Like MrJ later on (here: (331391.292)) pointed out, it's even possible to access forum/edit posts by using only BB app.
Nevertheless, requirement of editing your box score post also during Playoffs stays as a HGL rule.


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Possible rule addition/clarification #2:

Speaking of rules, as far as HGL and HGL-PL goes, I can't recall that we would've ever had a situation where team would've missed box score creation deadline (or maybe one French team once slightly did, but by informing me of it many times before and getting confirmation it's ok to do it slightly late on that special occasion).

We have been on the edge though with many teams many times before, so I hope we all can make sure it doesn't happen in the future.

However, with HGL-PL, we're also facing the situation in where one team (Tassie Devils) has not yet been created his box score post for HGL-PL on Season 5.
BBMails have been sent about the possible disqualification/forfeiting of HGL-PL matches, if HGL-PL duties have not been carried out in time.
I have already sent him many instructions, in addition to the ones sent today (as a last resort) that I'll soon publish in this forum thread as an added reminder to him.

So, where I'm getting into with this?

It is situation we haven't yet have to deal with in HGL, and basically as HGL rules applies most HGL-PL situations, drawing a line on either league probably means it'd be applied to another one as well.
In HGL rules it says:

It is of utmost importance to understand and remember, that every participating team arranges their own Pickup (PU) matches and also take care of sending box score links to appropriate place, on their own season box score post (links to posts here: (331392.6)) and are fully responsible in complying with these important rules which ensures the optimal functionality of the league.

Point is this:
It's/it'd likely be a necessary/good addition to rules (both HGL and HGL-PL), that as long as you haven't created your own box score post for the Season, you will forfeit all matches until you correct that situation.

While HGL-PL follows basically the same set of basic rules and mostly also procedures as HGL does, the problem here would also be that this hasn't ever been a clear problem in HGL so far and hence the penalties haven't been applied (nor I'd be sure they would've been clearly defined in rules anyway, as it's been one of the categories that "please don't break this rule so we don't have to start enforcing penalties on it"), and it hasn't also totally clearly been communicated to HGL-PL teams what would cause what (in terms of penalties).

But HGL-PL managers have had a requirement of going through the HGL rules/practices-posts (links also provided to them), and I understand that they should be aware that HGL-PL follows mainly HGL rules/practices when it's not mentioned otherwise in HGL-PL posts, and new managers also accept practices by participating to HGL-PL.

I hope Tassie Devils corrects this situation immediately, so that we don't have to possibily/probably start to enforce new set of penalties immediately.

However, as I mentioned, it might be good rules addition nevertheless. What do you guys think of it?

Last edited by Wagner at 7/20/2026 6:34:04 AM

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However, with HGL-PL, we're also facing the situation in where one team (Tassie Devils) has not yet been created his box score post for HGL-PL on Season 5.
BBMails have been sent about the possible disqualification/forfeiting of HGL-PL matches, if HGL-PL duties have not been carried out in time.
I have already sent him many instructions, in addition to the ones sent today (as a last resort) that I'll soon publish in this forum thread as an added reminder to him.

@Tazdevil/Tassie Devils ("TD"):
Here's an added reminder for you to act immediately, in the case you would for some reason read HGL Threads but wouldn't see/notice new BBMails sent to you. Communication in this urgent situation (as mentioned in BBMails, that we're dealing with somewhat urgent situation) has been challenging as I haven't been aware what exactly have been the problems.

Like you see, I've now tried to do this as easy for you as possible, even removing all unnecessary data (3 matches) from your box score post. Normally manager needs to do this by themselves, but I'd like you to be able to get aboard as it seemed to me you were really interested in HGL (as from the current bunch of teams, you were the first one to commit).

Of course you also need to add a Round 3 match link, what is still missing. Go to your "regular BB schedule, click match tactics/roster setup button" and note number on the browser address line. This is the match number you need to add after '=' sign.

Of course, not fulfilling HGL-PL duties in time might cause penalties, such as being disqualified from this Season's HGL-PL or forfeiting of matches as long as situation (creating box score) has been corrected.
I also remind you, that we have a strict penalties for forfeit losses-practice; forfeit loss would give you 0 points, loss 1 point, and a win 2 points.
So having forfeit loss would not do any good for one's chances of being one of the best teams in HGL-PL on that Season.



BBMail contents that have been sent to you include:

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Hi,
Participating to HGL-PL requires your immediate actions.
I'll give you one more set of instructions to follow, that should take you to the finish line in time if you act immediately.

On next BBMail to you I will send clear instructions on how to proceed, how to create your box score post. You can actually copy-paste that what I will send you, to create a HGL-PL box score post for your team, with editing it very little.

This needs to be done immediately though, as HGL-PL is beginning in less than 24hrs, so your immediate actions are required!

I give you a friendly reminder, that it's in your best interest to participate exactly on this Season if you want to play in HGL [....]


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Last instructions, act immediately:

Create this sort of post (VR75's post: (331392.170)), by replying to this post: (331392.22).
This is what you can publish (but change CORRECT match link to Round 3 match):

So, below you will find my schedule for HGL-PL on Season 5:

Note: # sign in front of team name=team responsible for sending match challenge!

HGL-PL Round 1, Monday July 20th, 2026:
#TD-SAN (139722442)

HGL-PL Round 2, Friday July 24th, 2026:
#TD-BOR (139757790)

HGL-PL Round 3, Sunday July 26th, 2026:
TD-#MLS [match=]

*Notes:
1. On 3rd Round game, add match number after '=' to create functional link to your box score post
2. TD-SAN and TD-BOR are organized at correct time.
Easy way to see what correct official time for match is, is to check your "regular BB schedule". If you know some HGL-PL match is played at correct time, then send/accept challenges only at that same time of the day, as that's the official HGL-PL match time.*



Last edited by Wagner at 7/19/2026 10:48:20 AM

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Point is this:
It's/it'd likely be a necessary/good addition to rules (both HGL and HGL-PL), that as long as you haven't created your own box score post for the Season, you will forfeit all matches until you correct that situation.

[...]

I hope Tassie Devils corrects this situation immediately, so that we don't have to possibily/probably start to enforce new set of penalties immediately.

However, as I mentioned, it might be good rules addition nevertheless. What do you guys think of it?

On the other hand, we have a match link available for tomorrow's Tassie Devils - San Fernando VR match, which is played at correct time.


So it's a tricky situation, in where I believe both approaches would be equally fair, either:

1. demand that teams have all fulfilled their duties (as 3 out of 4 have, if it is the case that TD-MLS match hasn't been created due to TD not accepting it; MLS hasn't yet responded if he has sent the challenge or has he missed that part of the rules; regardless of what he responds though, we'd always technically be in a 'how to prove it'-situation), or

2. accept that match link without further penalties to any HGL-PL teams (including TD), if Tassie Devils will create their teams' box score post soon (even slightly after HGL-PL has started), but apply that penalty starting immediately after this HGL-PL (unless it needs to be applied to TD, if they do not act "quickly enough", of which definition is still to be determined), concerning both HGL and HGL-PL, that if you haven't created a box score post for your team, then all your HGL or HGL-PL matches will be forfreit losses as long as situation remains uncorrected.

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Again, do any of you guys have any opinions on this?

Last edited by Wagner at 7/19/2026 11:04:00 AM