@Wagner...
First and foremost, I will reiterate what I have said often: YOU ARE DOING AN INCREDIBLE JOB AS COMMISSIONER!
But...
...I really think we need to work out the best format for the HGL in terms of what information is where. Like others, I have been here since Season 1...and still find it hard to know which thread to go to at times depending on what information I am seeking. We have ladders, stats, scores, commissioner requests, random bbmails and all sorts of items across both threads in a confusing and somewhat chaotic scene imo. Let me be clear, this is absolutely no way your fault, Wagner, it is just how things have evolved in the HGL. There is a lot of information. I didn't even know where to post this message...in the Scores or Official thread...or both!?
With that said, consider the confusion of which thread is to be used and when for new and existing participants. A new team, having not understood how everything works, could possibly become overwhelmed by the sheer volume of threads and messages and requests and expectations and rules and messages etc. So, how do we simplify this?
Somehow, we need to simplify all this information into a more concise and succinct system so that anybody arriving in the HGL knows where to go and why, what to do and when.
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Not enough time to reply to your message properly now, but this kind of structure has already been implemented on Season 2, like you can see from this post and it's link:
(331392.7). This is just another layer of work, and as goes with
ALL the other links (tons of them!) in all HGL posts, links do not update themselves. I haven't had perhaps a single positive feedback about this post though (at least outside of top2-3 most conversationally active managers), so I have no idea if anyone outside of active managers-envelope feels that beneficial (actives don't mainly even need them as threads will become familiar to them if they browse 15-20 first messages on each thread).
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Also, one thing is, that HGL always evolves to some extent, so posts won't be in exact same locations on each consequent season.
But mostly they stay on same locations, like you've seen.
Main post is mainly for messages, and scores thread, like name implies, for box score posts and stats. It is already mentioned on the Scores-thread, that discussion is mainly meant to take place on main thread. The thing is though, that people still do what they do - perhaps they don't read or remember that, or then want to do things their way regardless of instructions. Who knows?
Main thread is always main thread, as name implies (there is no "scores" addition in name) and if somewhere, most important posts are posted at least there.
Discussion just "happens" to also take place there, and I have not wanted to restrict that too much, because do we already have too busy conversational scene here in HGL, especially outside couple of active managers? Not really, no...
You are right about people getting lazy - I should probably let people take more responsibility on reading those forum posts in order to make things more "sustainable" in a long run, in terms of amount of work.
But I've just noticed, that often it leads to things not getting done. Again, that can be due to multiple reasons.
But like you mentioned, this post/preseason is the worst time of the season for long conversations.
And my main point indeed was to instead introduce pros/cons-discussion about staying on same thread
s Season after season until they fill.
But it's likely too short of a notice to have such conversation anyway, as that likely doesn't take place outside of top3-5 most active managers-envelope anyway on this short notice.. Meaning that at least one more transitioning process is needed (until setting up for two threads for the duration of 2-4 Seasons depending how quickly they fill up - again, this has not been decided to be the method).
Last edited by Wagner at 7/26/2026 4:58:38 AM