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Until now, I have just posted these tables at the end of the seasons to the respective threads. So, until now there was no one place, where this table could have been kept and updated. I guess we could have it 2 ways, either keep this table in your "All-time HG Records" thread and just update it there Though to have a comparison over the seasons, it might be better to still have the summary table at the respective seasons' threads and just provide links, as you suggested. I would be up for any solution really.

Edit: just did some digging and apparently I did not have such a table in the threads for season 1, as I only started in season 2. Therefore I had combined seasons 1 and 2 already. Here are the links for the posts in season 2 (328546.57) and season 3 (328546.187), if you want to add these to your thread.

Last edited by GM-LennuK at 1/29/2026 3:38:10 AM

That's why I put it here now. So you can use it ;)

Regular season:

Best collective performance of the season

Thanks, Hadár, for posting this here as well. It's good that this tireless work that you have done with game day stats can now be stored and collected to appropriate places (in addition to this thread, of course!), and the work does keep giving HGL value well into the future, especially now that LennuK. does seem to be taking over your role on stats collector of the round.

Which I would really like to see to be continued, but having said this, I know all this can be lots of work, and I don't want to cause you excessive pressure to do that by implying that you now 'need to' to it (as you kind of said it's your goal to keep doing it for this season, and it wasn't a clear commitment/promise).

I'm sure I can speak from behalf of everyone in HGL, LennuK., that we´d appreciate such effort though, should you decide to keep on collecting these stats. :)

One question that I'd have for the stats though - is there some certain reason why First Round Playoff stats are not included in your stats collecting routine, as every other rounds' matches are? Personally I find First Round as proper round as any, and while some could argue semantically that it's a play-in round instead of Playoff-round, I at least consider it 'a proper' Playoff round, as there are lots of teams included (and it's not like there would be, say, 4 teams playing of 2 remaining spots in Playoffs to join a huge amount of teams in Playoffs like in NCAA, in which case it would feel more like a play-in round).

If the argument would be that best 4 teams wouldn't be able to participate to that round, then it could be also said, that losers of each round wouldn't be able to participate to next rounds (so they wouldn't get new chances to set new records) either. But enough of the speculation already on my part.

And having said that, you are the creator of these stats, so naturally it leaves you with a freedom to choose what you collect, what not, and which is the presentation style you want. :)

Last edited by Wagner at 1/29/2026 12:06:11 PM

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If the argument would be that best 4 teams wouldn't be able to participate to that round, then it could be also said, that losers of each round wouldn't be able to participate to next rounds (so they wouldn't get new chances to set new records) either. But enough of the speculation already on my part.

That's exactly why. The top four teams don't play. They can't. It's different from the quarterfinals, semifinals, and finals. Anyone can get there.

I consider a round that the top 4 teams don't participate in as a qualification for the playoffs. It's my subjective view. Everyone can look at it differently. That's OK.

If the argument would be that best 4 teams wouldn't be able to participate to that round, then it could be also said, that losers of each round wouldn't be able to participate to next rounds (so they wouldn't get new chances to set new records) either. But enough of the speculation already on my part.

That's exactly why. The top four teams don't play. They can't. It's different from the quarterfinals, semifinals, and finals. Anyone can get there.

I consider a round that the top 4 teams don't participate in as a qualification for the playoffs. It's my subjective view. Everyone can look at it differently. That's OK.

Yes, everyone can have their views. And as a consequence, I view these stats differently as far as Playoffs-stats are concerned, due to not whole Playoffs being calculated in. But again, that's just my view, and people have different opinions.

Well, theoretically anyone can get there (Quarters, Semis' and so on), but unless you do well in Regular Season, you know very well it's been impossible for anyone to win against your team or VPO, so so far this possibility of proceeding further in a Playoffs from a bad Playoff position has remained purely theoretical in practice by a somewhat large (and sometimes crushingly large) margin.

Also, taking a different approach/view (or in a way to continue on that line/spirit, that some teams can't play on First Round), one could also say that top4 teams could be playing on First Round, but they played too well to be able to do that, so yes, they also can get to play on First Round, it´s their "fault" that they don't play in there. (Having said that, of course I don't encourage anyone to lose on purpose, and to be fair I can identify contradictions in my previous sentence to some extent).

Again, I understand why in NCAA they call it play-in/First Four, because it's more like a warm-up to Playoffs (as 8 of 68 teams participate in it). Also in NBA play-in round doesn't include as many matches, as Playoff rounds do. But if in HGL, just as many play in First Round as in Second Round, aka. quarter-final round. (This doesn't make your opinion wrong though, but I wanted to underline my point).

I also knew from the beginning when introducing this Playoff system, that this Playoff format would create different amount of games to different teams, and whenever not all teams "of same level" aren't included in each and every round, it causes some problems in statistics, at least if you want to compare all teams equally.
(This same problem would be in a league, in which not everybody faces everybody else during season, which is one of the reasons it's great we don't have that problem in HGL).

Anyway, just like you said, differing opinions are more norm than an exception, and everyone can have their take on things, which is fine. Additionally, as mentioned before, you have done tremendously good work with releasing stats in the past (which I hope will be continued into the future), and as a creator of stats, you have freedom to make them like you wish.

So this post must not be understood as an any kind of attack towards your fine work, but just as an opinion of one person - person, who is trying to understand how others see things, why they do what they do, and sometimes give lengthy replies, as has been the case here.

Also, if again middle ground would be worth to be searched, then maybe separate stats and all-time records from First Round could be gathered/saved, in addition to those stats concerning only qtr, semis, and medal games.

Last edited by Wagner at 1/29/2026 1:52:13 PM

I actually copied Hadar's statistics summary into an Excel file and once again thanks a lot for keeping these stats from season to season!. I then checked out the first round matches to get an idea, what the "difference" would be in the end. I added the first round records with a "1. Round" label into my own document and until now, there would be 2 entries from first round matches. Under the best personal performances F. Harmand (Elan Demars) would be tied with 4 steals (135007722) and N. Grévin (Les Gueux du Marais) would be the record holder in 3 points scored with 9 (135007098). I would keep track of the first round in my personal document too, just if something really interesting occurs.