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Please stop the shuffling of D.IV

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326703.3 in reply to 326703.1
Date: 4/1/2025 9:26:09 AM
Seltzer Daddy
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Any historical background or context on this, like has this happened in past seasons, what's the rationale, etc.? I just joined midway Season 67 so this comes as a surprise to me, I didn't see anything in the rules/manual/etc about this.

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Date: 4/1/2025 9:46:03 AM
Swan River Serpents
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Any historical background or context on this, like has this happened in past seasons, what's the rationale, etc.? I just joined midway Season 67 so this comes as a surprise to me, I didn't see anything in the rules/manual/etc about this.


It has been this way since Utopia came into existence...

Other countries too...

Here in Australia, if you relegate from Div III (like I did last season) you don't go down to Div IV as there is perhaps only 1 Div IV league that isn't completely full of BOTS.

The more I think about it, I think there is some value to being 'shuffled' if the league you are in becomes significantly less competitive (more bot teams). Otherwise, it seems like it could be something that could be tidied up.

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326703.6 in reply to 326703.2
Date: 4/1/2025 7:29:14 PM
Vatican Vipers
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Its not about scouting to me. Seasons are super long, plenty of time to scout. Its more about relationship building.

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Date: 4/1/2025 8:36:57 PM
Swan River Serpents
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Its not about scouting to me. Seasons are super long, plenty of time to scout. Its more about relationship building.


Fair enough

It's been too quiet in OZ these days for that

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326703.8 in reply to 326703.1
Date: 4/1/2025 9:49:06 PM
The Orchestra
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If I remember right, the intention is to keep people from having their only initial experience of the game being botsmashing or getting smashed by bots. This way if you lose, you're losing to real people. And you have a season at least to get to know your real, human opponents.

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Date: 4/3/2025 4:44:53 PM
La cúpula CB
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Same here! We had such a good forum group last season but all the active managers were transfered to other leagues. Now we have 4 bots and 4 teams that had not signed in for the last month. Yuhu!


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326703.10 in reply to 326703.8
Date: 5/12/2025 5:07:37 AM
Gas Team
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If I remember right, the intention is to keep people from having their only initial experience of the game being botsmashing or getting smashed by bots. This way if you lose, you're losing to real people. And you have a season at least to get to know your real, human opponents.

Yes, that was probably the intention but it didn't quite hit the mark.
Take me for example, I was in a league with humans and some bots, I won the playout and still got shuffled to another league which had other humans and bots. Funny thing: my current league has now MORE bots than my previous league :D
The same is happening to other friends of mine...

I agree with OP, stop shuffling unless it's absolutely necessary (let's say you play in a league with less than 5 active people, or something like that).

Last edited by gassopode at 5/12/2025 5:10:40 AM