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An app should bring in more users.

Ultimately I think some flaws in the structure and game-play design will drive them away again over time.

I don't think BBs are willing to address or correct the core game design flaws so the game will continue to flounder.

An app is a good idea, but it won't save Buzzerbeater.

In my view the biggest problem is the league structure. It doesn't work with a small user base. Active players are often isolated in some obscure division. Bot teams are BAD for the game, there should not be as many as there are today. It really hurts the community.

I think they should get rid of the actual structure by removing the country level. Just put all teams under the same "country" and keep the actual division system. Who cares if an Italian club is in the same league with canadians, russians, greeks, etc? I think lower leagues would become way more competitive and the community could flourish again.

The grouping by country is great and all but it simply doesn't work anymore. BB is now an extremely tiny "niche" game. It's not necessarily a bad thing but we have to accept the reality. In my view the worst thing to do is to divide an already shrinking user base. I know my solution sounds extreme but an extreme situation requires an extreme solution.

Last edited by Deneb at 01/12/2019 22:12:51

I don't think that an app would change anything.
The current user base are for 99% old players who play this game already many seasons. New users who will come threw the app will find the game old and slow. And I can't blame them, 2 games in a week and if you have a cup/scrimmage you will have a third game. If you think that this game is based on de NBA, you should have more games in a week, lets say 4 games and cup/scrimmages as a fifth game. Also 1 week training is particularly boring. I trained a player to the NT for 8 seasons to get 140 skill points. That's way to long for new players to do the same. It means that you will have to train minimal 2 years to get the same result. I don't see new(young) users have so much patients. Training is in my opinion to slow and you should get training every day or after every game. Also game shape should not depend on how many minutes al player play's in a game. I don't have a solution how is should be, but for now it is sometimes impossible to let a player play 2/3 games in a week and still have a good game shape. For example you don't see Le Bron miss a game or play from the bench for a couple of minutes. You should be able to play with your best squad every game. If you don't fix these problems and make the game faster than you won't get new users an app will not make any difference.

I love the ideas presented in this topic by everybody. I've been part of BB since season 4 as a free user (that's another story, another day) although I'm not nearly "active" as I was when I began here. I completely agree that for the mobile-user, the current structure of the BB season is too slow and boring. As we move forward in our lives, we get busy and sadly (yes, very sadly), BB takes a backseat to higher priority items. I have forgotten on numerous occasions to login to BB to set lineups and my player's game shape suffers because of it.

I have daydreamed over the years about how awesome it would be if BB would provide us a game (either mobile or on the computer) that was like Front Office Football where I could play it offline (or online). I do not necessarily have to play in a league of real players although that is a great bonus. There are times where I just want to be the owner of the league and simulate a game, make trades, fire and hire staff, etc. and I want to do it in rapid fashion. I paid for FOF and I likely would pay for a BB version (ratings system and all) if it meant I could play the seasons at my own pace, or even create a league with my own close friends/family. This is a game that my son would enjoy if we could do it at our own pace and following our own set of rules.

I have started and quit BB a few times about 5 years ago as I didnt have the patience needed to play and enjoy this game. Going off of the idea of a shorter season to appeal to new users I think that is vital once the app is released. 14 weeks makes for a long season for younger generations.

This comment could go in the suggestions forum, but to make the season shorter, league games could be played on Thursdays. The league games would not start until the last 2, 3, or 4 weeks of the season. As for cup games, take out all of the bot teams so users are only playing other users to shorten cup tournaments. Obviously once your eliminated you can still find scrimmages until league games begin. This may make training minutes a little easier to come by and give managers a better opportunity to make a run in the cup tournaments while not sacrificing as much game shape later in the season to both compete in the cup and league playoffs.

I'm not familiar with when the NT, U21, or BBB tournaments begin pool play and obviously those would need to be shorter some how as well to accommodate a shorter season

The down side with shorter seasons is that it is obviously fewer weeks to train young players. The coefficients would need to be adjusted to make up for this.

A 10, 11, or 12 week season (2 1/2 to 3 month season) to speed things up a little bit and enable users to complete 4 or 5 seasons in a year instead of 3 seasons which it is now.

Less popular idea. Start from scratch. Have the BB app separate from the browser BB universe. 10 team leagues, 8 to 10 week seasons, everything else the same. Start at season 1. This however would split up the BB users and accelerate the end of BB.

Now back to football.

And when the game become faster for new young users what would happen with the old ones? If there is a huge change in the game structure, I will leave. What about the others?

The last posts are full of terrible suggestions, IMO