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Sometimes I can't change the manager's opinion...
For example (47243129) and (47243219)

I would not waste energy on trying to get managers to train HOF potential for U21. It's not going to happen. No good manager is going to train OD or other skills needed for a great U21 player and then try to also train for a great NT player.

Please target at most MVP but the sweet spot for U21 talent is allstar, perennial allstar, and superstar. These players will never make NT but can make an awesome U21 player if trained correctly, as they will hit their cap in their final U21 year or in the seasons just after.

My opinion.

I've been open with you what my training plans were when you asked for Pollak (on 02/27) and for Saurabh (on 04/28 and 04/29), so I'm not too pleased with being called out like this.
I'm not going to go into my targeted builds for my players in the forums but if anyone wants to discuss in bb-mail, send me a message and I'd be happy to get your thoughts. I'm hoping the 2 will be beneficial to the senior NT, but the NT manager can decide that when the time comes.

That said, is there is a manager that is looking to build the U21 community? I think it would be great if someone did have the time and effort to put in for that.

If they want the skills/messages, I'll let them bb-mail me and I'll share those.

And despite this, unless Music_Chick or flight93 make a strong case for why they should be elected U21 manager, you'll have my vote. If you do get elected, I hope you'll drop the public attempts to get me to train a particular way. Feel free to keep making the case in bb-mail.

Last edited by Fresh24 at 06/06/2020 14:13:03

The U21 team can get frustrating but every manager in any division they play in has to make up there own mind of how to train. For example my drafty Raphael Lang. Could I have made him better with a different training program, yes. Could I afford to lose games in Div 1 to make them better for U21 no. Fresh24 has won multiple Championships in Div 1 and chose to relegate to Div 2. He knows what is best for his team and there is nothing that would change that. U21 is a tough job and you just gotta go with it and..... Don't worry! Be happy now! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-diB65scQU You have my vote for vote still :)

is there still an off-site forum for canada?

I think there's been a few different ones in the past 10-15 seasons. I know i had my own for me and scouting staff to keep track of NT players in my one term there. I was going to update and re-vamp it if I was chosen.. I suppose even if I'm not chosen, I'd be happy to do it up. Everyone has their own ideas of off-sites, I like mine to keep things in order, so we can see strengths and weakneses and so everyone chosen to be scouts or staff are on short and long-term page.

For me, it's more about functionality than glamour. It's especially useful for keepng track of the All Star to Superstar players, that others might not usually track much.. Gotta find the 'diamonds in the rough, so no stones unturned.

"How do the U21 candidates plan to improve on the performance from S49?" - Zmtmoako

I was doing some reserach of the top squads in the Americas based off a quick perusal of the NT Scouting tool. Although this is not 100% because I haven't had time to look at it all, and I can't see their actual skills, I have made estimations of each division:

Our Division - USA 1st, Columbia 2nd, Canada - 3rd, Mexico-4th

Division 2 - Chile(very strong), Bresil, Venezuela, Uruguay

Division 3 - Argentina(stacked inside), Peru(very strong and home court throughout).. no one else


Based off of this, we will most likely not get into top 4-6.. It would make more sense to try to do the best we can, while staying out of the last chance qualifiers, so that we can try to see what we can do in season 40 and aim for home court for season 41.. Because of our perceived lack of depth, if there were 20/19 year olds close to as good as a 21 year odl, even if a bit worse, it would be in our interest to take the younger players, to try to develop some more expereince points for that player for later.

I think we will finish somewhere between 7th and 8th in the Americas. Of course, variables will change throughout the season, but that's where I see us. Would that make us have a more/less successful season than last year? Tough to say, but we could atleast try to set ourselves up better for the year after.

Hope that answers your question. It probbaly seems cliche to hear that it's atleast a 4 year plan, but if you look at the powerhouses that exist this year, I would be lying to say I think we'd make top 4-6. I just can't see it.


Last edited by Music_Chick at 06/07/2020 21:23:47